Originally Posted by s/v Jedi
How much proof do you need? MaineSail just posted a pretty convincing picture, but let me add one anyway; both had two anchors out... just some pieces of rope/chain bungling from the decks now:
It's fine that you have decided that your anchor
is just fine when you add a second anchor to help it. But please stop saying that it outperforms a single
anchor that is sized correctly because failures like the pics posted here now are not outperforming the boats that just stay put with their correctly size single
anchors. And it will happen to you too, one will drag and take the other out too (by fouling it). It is only a matter of time.
These are sometimes the folks who pull into an anchorage where EVERY boat there is swinging to one anchor and insist on dropping a stern hook or Bahamian set for absolutely no necessary reason. They then wonder why everyone is so close them them after the wind
shift and blame it on everyone else...
My buddy Andy comes to mind.. Hope he's not reading this...
I can count on one hand the number of times I've "needed" to do a two anchor set in 40 years of sailing & boating
I watch very closely the boats that go ashore here in Maine
every year. I check for anchor type, ask about scope
, how many anchors out, rode
type etc. etc.. I am often there helping to kedge someone off...
Two anchor sets are out numbered here in Maine
& the Maritimes by at least 50:1 and yet I have seen quite a few two anchor set boats go ashore and many more nearly do so after the two rodes twisted up and one anchor fouled the other.
Perhaps Seahunter can educate us as to how to prevent a rode
tangle/twist with multiple 360 swings per day, varying winds in the same day from zero to 30+ knots, and 10-25 foot tides.?
I've seen folks from down South who "do this all the time and NEVER had a tangle"
foul so bad in Maine that they are cussing and swearing up a storm...
The funniest was when my buddy from down South, cruising Maine, was going to show me "how it's done" with a two anchor set. He preferred this and "never tangled"... He'd done it that way for 15 years and claimed to have "never once dragged"...... I tried to explain swinging in small coves and etiquette but he would hear none of it.
As usual I stuck with my single anchor even though winds were predicted to hit 40 knots. They only hit 25.. By 3:00 am he was tangled tight and began dragging. Headlamps, dinghys and a third anchor solved
that one while the other two were untangled. He used two anchors because, as you mentioned, he'd dragged his primary CQR
so many times that he just felt more comfortable on two..
He now has a bigger new gen primary and uses it alone after than debacle.. The funny
thing was this was after four nights of anchoring
with them and every morning he'd say see we didn't move and I'd say neither did we and I was enjoying the sunset & cocktails while you were futzing with your ground tackle..... I'd then point to his bow and say umm your snubbers are twisted together.....
For four days he kept ribbing us on his "preferred" two anchor gig despite twice being lambasted by other cruisers for not "swinging with the rest of the cove after being last one to arrive".. On the fifth night after the 3:00 am debacle he was awfully quiet...
P.S I think I know that place...