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Old 24-08-2010, 13:47   #1
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Twin Boats . . . Help Me Solve My Dilemma

hello all I am still on the hunt for my partner sailboat.

I narowed down to one model (Hinterhoeller 28)

the first boat is in good condition, has an atomic4 engin, a tiller, the companion way hatch all the way to the cockpit floor, the cabin layout has a lazarette on one side. it has a mian sail, a woring jib, a genoa and a very large genoa with pole, sails need resowing. other then varnish and bottom paint no other work needs to be done.

the second boat has no engin but a hole in well for outboard, it has a wheel not a tiller and a bridge so water wont flood into the boat, the cabin is a salon layout with ice box and sink on one side and stove on the other side. this interior looks better then the first boat. also this hinterhoeller 28 has a skeg rudder, the other one has only a rudder. it has a main sail. a genoa, working jib in good condition. no bilge pump no electronics. this boat is in better condition then the first and only needs the keel painted.

both boats ar $3000ea
witch is the better buy? wheel or tiller? inboard or outboard?
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Old 24-08-2010, 15:39   #2
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On a boat like this, I prefer a tiller over a wheel.

New sails will cost as much as a new outboard so that is probably a wash.

A boat with no bilge pumps? Not a giant expense but whatever you do add them if you don't have them.

Which boat "sings to you" when you go aboard? That's the boat to buy.

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both boats ar $3000ea
witch is the better buy? wheel or tiller? inboard or outboard?
Whichever is cheaper to bring to the standard that is acceptable to you.

But on that size and price (and I presume both well older) I would be leaning towards the 2nd due to uncertainty on the engine. Inboard preferable, but outboard far more easily and cheaply replaced (and also not so likely to be the original!)............but would also depend on how much intended use.
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whichever one makes ye forget women......and makes your heart flutter....
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On a boat like this, I prefer a tiller over a wheel.

New sails will cost as much as a new outboard so that is probably a wash.


Which boat "sings to you" when you go aboard? That's the boat to buy.

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I too prefer a tiller, the sails ar good but need resewing witch is normal, the second boat sings to me.
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Whichever is cheaper to bring to the standard that is acceptable to you.

But on that size and price (and I presume both well older) I would be leaning towards the 2nd due to uncertainty on the engine. Inboard preferable, but outboard far more easily and cheaply replaced (and also not so likely to be the original!)............but would also depend on how much intended use.
both boats ar way beyond my expectations in terms of condition, the woodwork is perfect and of higher quality then most of todays standarts.

the hull and deck of these 1968 vesels ar built like tanks and will outlast me and probably my childrens too.

as for the engin it is spackle clean a nice red atomic 4, beside I am a mecanic and can redo any engin in half a day at little expense, however I prefer the outboard and appreciate the gained space in cabin.
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whichever one makes ye forget women......and makes your heart flutter....
you mean those sublime creatures that gives a sens to this life?

is there really such a boat and would I want any part of it?

comon be real my hart will fluter when I am sailing only because I will be daydreaming about womens
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I'd take the second boat, rip the wheel out and replace with tiller. The extra storage will accomodate your dream womans and the bridgedeck will keep her stuff dry. The skeg ensure alll three of you keep pointed in the direction you want to go.
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tiller/outboard...tiller/rudder=2 moving parts...Wheel=several more inaccessible things to break..

outboard.likewise...if it gives me crap and i don't want to mess with it..off it comes, and to the shop it goes..and no diesel smell, no oil in my nice clean bilges, ie no disposal problem...

OTOH..if you are into electronic autopilot...might be simpler with a wheel..never messed with them on a vessel less than a thousand tons though.
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yes i agree with you guys, plus the inboard space allows for a nice bank of 4 good batteries and some storage, all easy access.

this is not a boat intended to sit at the marina, the optic is for her to be self suficiant and practicle ( without futilities)
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one last thing to consider, one boat has a deep bildg the other has a flat shallow bildg. what is the importance of a bildg?
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