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Old 08-03-2018, 14:28   #211
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Re: Trailerable blue-ocean: exists?

Thanks for the input. I love the big cockpit idea for actual sailing in nice weather, but can easily it being a drag in a storm, filling up faster than it can drain 8-O

Love the way she looks though. . .
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Yeah but that design with a good dodger makes a lot of sense for gunkholing or local island sailing where I am. Once you are anchored it is really nice to have that big cockpit available for laying out in and for all the toys and BBQ and a place to clean the fish etc etc
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Old 11-03-2018, 00:19   #213
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Trintella IA, 29, apparently 28's out there as well.

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If we are talking about the Trintella such as the one here in SD, I remember at least 2 of them from many moons ago when I lived aboard that looked exactly like the one in the photo. They are beautiful, and very similar to the Columbia 29 in dimensions but heavier and deeper so they should be stiffer. I never sailed one but I admired them from afar. I DO remember the owners working on them a lot. They, like older Cheoy Lees, demanded a good deal in maintenance and at this point attention to the house and deck integrity, and the presence of rot, is needed. A surveyor should be one who knows these boats. And they originally had wood masts which the owners I knew of switched to aluminum. If you find one in really good shape with a good engine, it's a very good find IMO, and if it were me, the first major purchase would be a full boat cover to protect that wood!
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Old 20-03-2018, 10:20   #215
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Maybe adding Seafarer 26, McCurdy / Rhodes design

6'2 headroom is very rare in this size, apparently fully encapsulated lead keel

Saw one advertised super cheap supposedly in great shape had a real head
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Maybe adding Seafarer 26, McCurdy / Rhodes design

6'2 headroom is very rare in this size, apparently fully encapsulated lead keel

Saw one advertised super cheap supposedly in great shape had a real head
Sounds like a pretty good deal
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"If you think none / some of the smaller boats are safe for blue water, specific feedback would be appreciated"

John, there is size, safety and then there is *comfort* in boats. Size is irrelevant, in that from 10ft up you can build anything to take the punishment that the ocean can dish out within reason

Safety is something specific to each boat's owner and how they choose to set parameters and equip the vessel for the task at hand. Just because a boat can cross oceans does not mean the expense to do so has to be paid out by an owner who only intends to coastal cruise it.

Comfort is what 'size' can buy you in a well designed vessel. It won't roll as much downwind, nor pitch as much in a seaway, nor constantly broach wildly out of control in varying winds. There are 'boat designers' and 'Naval Architects', the two are vastly different, think nurse and heart surgeon. Both work in the same venue but one has superior knowledge to perform the task at hand. Same with a BD or NA, you want an ocean crossing vessel to be drawn by a Naval Architect of some reknown, preferably someone whom has put their own life on the line and sailed a diverse number of vessels in their lifetime to frame their experience onto paper.

This is not to say many of the coastal cruisers out there that have crossed oceans at one time or another were not up to the task, they were *outfitted* for the task. IE, cape dory 27 that circumnavigated has good 'bones' but was specifically beefed up in certain areas to compensate with expected wear and tear.

Don, I was *just* down to a boatyard today to check on a mast I had made a barter on in mid sept. Lo and behold there sits a 1965 Columbia 29 with the atomic 4 pulled motor mounts widened and a good running dang forgot what diesel engine is in it. Too many conversations from seeing it and dealing with 9 other people I had not seen in the boatyard since sept Anyway, the story is the owner is in Ohio and is contemplating wanting it gone because he doesn't want to pay winter storage fees. I casually know the guy who was aboard cleaning it out. he knows 'I'm in the loop' of knowing lots of people who buy boats because I'm around to 20 or so yards in the region. He said in 2 weeks time or so to let him know if anyone is a serious buyer, ie no tire kickers, because essentially he wants to show it make a transaction and be done. A person with cash in hand could own it for about the price of the California one, and it's in less of a refit condition, though needs a thorough cleaning in and out. Sitting on the hard with someone who knows the boat in and out because it was his old boat. He did all of the work before this owner traded boats with him. He says the sails are usable, but not offshore worthy.
I have not been on c.f or online some Nov 2017 and my posts in this thread. My health failed and it has taken me the last 5 months to regain what I could of my health. Still not out of the woods.typing on a tablet because the desktop cup got fried while I was in the hospital. Anyway,yesterday I was browsing on the tablet and came across the very boat i referenced in my original post, 29 Columbia sailboat for sale $900!!!!!!!! On craigslist.org New Jersey (Central newjersey) it is a STEAL! Located in Morgan Marina, nice staff, do it yourself yard, well outfitted marine store on premises with realistic prices, clean restrooms,and more! One of my favorite marinas to visit in central nj. You can ask for Shawn, the marina mechanic, who will be able to get you in touch with Reuben the Columbia 29 owners rep and previous owner! Good luck to whoever scores this boat😀 Big shout out to those of you on c.f who know me or have liked with me in last years,best of health to all. I hope to get sailing this Summer. Gene
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Old 07-04-2018, 12:14   #218
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Thanks, sure makes me wish I were closer to ready - posted it to the Free thread.

Hope your health issues all come good soon!
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Thanks for the torturous info about the $900 C29 in a great yard. Ah well, my wife is glad it's so far away! Keep staying on the sunny side of life there Clamdigger! Keep moving and recovering! (Then can you find me one of those over on the west coast? Don't tell my wife!)
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Thanks for the torturous info about the $900 C29 in a great yard. Ah well, my wife is glad it's so far away! Keep staying on the sunny side of life there Clamdigger! Keep moving and recovering! (Then can you find me one of those over on the west coast? Don't tell my wife!)
don you pay half the transport costs and my trucking company can transport it. Or you pay half the canal transit . ( you must accompany me as a line handler)
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don you pay half the transport costs and my trucking company can transport it. Or you pay half the canal transit . ( you must accompany me as a line handler)
Canal? Oh you mean the Strait of Magellan! ok.
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Canal? Oh you mean the Strait of Magellan! ok.
if that far then yes I will need you to stand a couple helm watches each week.
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Elizabethan 29 is another really skinny boat too.
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