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Old 21-04-2010, 11:00   #16
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500gms Chili powder, 250gms garlic powder -1 litre bilge paint..... stir well and apply...
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Old 21-04-2010, 11:08   #17
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Wives tale. I've seen paint manufacturer sales reps laugh when it was suggested that chili pepper is an effective anti fouling ingredient.
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Old 21-04-2010, 11:21   #18
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That maintenance technique is so 19th Century, I'm just surprised that it is allowed in Britain.
Okay, what is the alternative ?

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Okay, what is the alternative ?
Seriously? How about hauling at a boatyard where they take steps to minimalize boat maintenance's impact on the environment? Not saying that boatyards are super-green, but in this country they do have regulations and permits to abide by and the good ones really do go the extra mile to reduce pollution. Is it free? No. But it's the right thing to do.
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What is the difference if the paint wears off slowly while being sailed from being sanded or scraped off somewhere near the water. It seems to me that the paint is going to end up in the environment either way. I suppose there will be some concentration if scraped on the grid. On land I have used tarps to collect the scrapings and disposed in the trash. If the boat is actually used then the paint is going to wear off of the hull and into the water.
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What is the difference if the paint wears off slowly while being sailed from being sanded or scraped off somewhere near the water.
Yes, why bother trying to reduce pollution?
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I did not say that, you did. If you read my post, you will see how I deal with the paint, "On land I have used tarps to collect the scrapings and disposed in the trash.", your knee-jerk reaction does nothing.
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I did not say that, you did. If you read my post, you will see how I deal with the paint, "On land I have used tarps to collect the scrapings and disposed in the trash.", your knee-jerk reaction does nothing.
What I responded to was your inference that sanding & scraping paint into the water was a non-issue since the paint would end up there anyway, which is a complete fallacy. The fact that anti fouling paints leach copper and/or ablate as they are used does not equate to actually removing the product from the hull by mechanical means.
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Seriously? How about hauling at a boatyard where they take steps to minimalize boat maintenance's impact on the environment? Not saying that boatyards are super-green, but in this country they do have regulations and permits to abide by and the good ones really do go the extra mile to reduce pollution. Is it free? No. But it's the right thing to do.
Yes, I was serious. What makes you think I make an impact on the environment? as I said, I use erroding paint, only the prop is cleaned off and the odd patch of the keel. Their is probably a bigger impact from starting up the yard crane to lift her out.

What difference would there be lifting her out in a boat yard and painting the hull myself to doing on a scrubbing grid?


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What difference would there be lifting her out in a boat yard and painting the hull myself to doing on a scrubbing grid?


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Again, the detritus produced during a bottom job should not go into the water, and in a boatyard it does not, for the most part. And again, you by yourself probably do not constitute a large problem. But you are not the only one doing bottom jobs on a grid. If I dump used motor oil down the storm drain, it is not going to create a big impact on the environment. But what if everybody did it? You see my point.
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Wives tale. I've seen paint manufacturer sales reps laugh when it was suggested that chili pepper is an effective anti fouling ingredient.
When I meet an HONEST SALES REP who will recommend someone elses product as being better than theirs I'll know its the end of the world....
Bit like Chrysler recommending you buy a BMW... LMAO.

PS; you forgot the Garlic...
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When I meet an HONEST SALES REP who will recommend someone elses product as being better than theirs I'll know its the end of the world....
Bit like Chrysler recommending you buy a BMW... LMAO.

PS; you forgot the Garlic...
If either of the ingredients you suggested were effective in anti fouling paint , we'd see commercially available products using them. But we don't. Why? Because chili peppers and/or garlic don't work.

So who was the sales rep laughing at?
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Ahh well... you go your way and I'll go mine... either way its an annual job....
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How many coats are ya putting on? I'm finding that using single coats lessens the flaking and chips. The paint seems to last two seasons just fine, provided ya have the boat dived on a couple of times per year. The reason we use Acetone is that the residual paint removed stays in the rags. We bag 'em and throw them away so nothing gets on the ground. The Acetone makes the old paint lay down and smooth out along with making the edges of chips softer and easier to feather out.
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... either way its an annual job....
Not where I come from. Three years on a properly maintained modified epoxy bottom, two on an ablative bottom.
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