Cruisers Forum
 


Join CruisersForum Today

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 19-07-2016, 13:49   #1
Registered User

Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Marina Del Rey, CA
Posts: 296
This stanchion base is good for anchoring,,,,

A jackline?Click image for larger version

Name:	ImageUploadedByCruisers Sailing Forum1468961347.022563.jpg
Views:	169
Size:	39.8 KB
ID:	128043


Sent from my iPad using Cruisers Sailing Forum
__________________

__________________
cpt_757 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19-07-2016, 13:52   #2
Guy
Registered User

Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: So. Oregon
Boat: Seafarer36c
Posts: 3,951
Re: This stanchion base is good for anchoring,,,,

How you going to attach it?
__________________

__________________
Guy is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 19-07-2016, 15:02   #3
Registered User

Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Marina Del Rey, CA
Posts: 296
Re: This stanchion base is good for anchoring,,,,

Tie tight or hook tether instead of pad eye.


Sent from my iPhone using Cruisers Sailing Forum
__________________
cpt_757 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19-07-2016, 15:31   #4
Guy
Registered User

Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: So. Oregon
Boat: Seafarer36c
Posts: 3,951
Re: This stanchion base is good for anchoring,,,,

OK well that brings up several other questions. If the base has a backing plate it's as good as anything but some one might say it's to far outboard. What kind of knot are you talking about? If you don't like knots you could sew loops and use shackles to the base. Wow, how about a soft shackle? Soft on the feet too. Then there are all the webbing questions, good luck.
__________________
Guy is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 19-07-2016, 15:34   #5
Senior Cruiser
 
StuM's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Port Moresby,Papua New Guinea
Boat: FP Belize Maestro 43
Posts: 6,096
Re: This stanchion base is good for anchoring,,,,

Definitely not.
__________________
StuM is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 19-07-2016, 15:41   #6
Writing Full-Time Since 2014
 
thinwater's Avatar

Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Deale, MD
Boat: PDQ Altair, 32/34
Posts: 4,090
Re: This stanchion base is good for anchoring,,,,

Not often discussed, it is interesting.

  • Probably too far outboard, but perhaps not.
  • The knot question is secondary, not specific to the use. If there is a loop, luggage tag. If the other end, consider 2 loops and a lashing. I suppose many people use cleats, but I HATE that practice, since it means jacklines are not rigged all the time (must be removed to dock or anchor). As a single hander, I'll not be fooling with installing jacklines underway. Silly.
  • Almost certainly strong enough in shear (pull along the deck). The bending requirements on a stanchion are FAR more demanding. But you need to take a very close look a the construction, of course.
I can see that it would not be generally recommended, because they are not made for this and thus it is possible to have an unsuitable design. Certainly many sailors clip to a stanchion base while working.


Personally, if jacklines are important to you then they are important enough to determine the BEST location and then install the fasteners. Would you just attach a seat belt in a car to anything? Would you only install it for certain trips? I think not. You consider it a part of the car.
__________________
Gear Testing--Engineering--Sailing
https://sail-delmarva.blogspot.com/2017/01/the-book-store.html
"Keeping a Cruising Boat for Peanuts"
"Faster Cruising for the Coastal Sailor"
thinwater is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19-07-2016, 16:04   #7
cat herder, extreme blacksheep
 
zeehag's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: furycame alley , tropics, mexico for now
Boat: 1976 FORMOSA yankee clipper 41
Posts: 17,329
Images: 56
Send a message via Yahoo to zeehag Send a message via Skype™ to zeehag
Re: This stanchion base is good for anchoring,,,,

stanchions are not made to SAVE lives just to mark edge of boat. and centerline is not where stanchions live. your choice to place where you can be dragged to death, but centerline is most appropriate location for a jackline. have fun. it is about prevention, not retrieval, as that aint gonna happen.
zeehag is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19-07-2016, 16:07   #8
Registered User

Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Marina Del Rey, CA
Posts: 296
Re: This stanchion base is good for anchoring,,,,

This part have a back up plate and reinforced. So I was wondering I can hook up while I am at cockpit.


Sent from my iPhone using Cruisers Sailing Forum
__________________
cpt_757 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19-07-2016, 16:16   #9
Registered User

Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Carrabelle, Florida
Boat: Self-built 44' steel trawler
Posts: 852
Re: This stanchion base is good for anchoring,,,,

The problem people are bringing up, among others, is that it's at the edge of the boat. Think in terms of your body on a sphere with that point as the center. While one point is "at the helm," with it at the edge another is "under the transom." If you want to latch on while you are at the helm, choose an anchor point at the centerline of the boat, and keep the harness short enough that you can't be washed overboard.
__________________
tkeithlu is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19-07-2016, 17:00   #10
Guy
Registered User

Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: So. Oregon
Boat: Seafarer36c
Posts: 3,951
Re: This stanchion base is good for anchoring,,,,

Quote:
Originally Posted by zeehag View Post
. it is about prevention, not retrieval, as that aint gonna happen.

So I heard this story; there was this woman, a very healthy woman, who was dragged by her tether along side her boat for 8 days, she finally bounced back onboard.
__________________
Guy is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 19-07-2016, 19:05   #11
Registered User

Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Marina Del Rey, CA
Posts: 296
Re: This stanchion base is good for anchoring,,,,

I may install some pad eyes with reinforced plates near the cockpit rather than installing couple of cleets on aft to run jack lines since I have anchor points close to bow.


Sent from my iPad using Cruisers Sailing Forum
__________________
cpt_757 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19-07-2016, 19:10   #12
Registered User
 
Stu Jackson's Avatar

Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Cowichan Bay, BC (Maple Bay Marina)
Posts: 6,104
Re: This stanchion base is good for anchoring,,,,

Nothing.
__________________
Stu Jackson
Catalina 34 #224 (1986) C34IA Secretary
Cowichan Bay, BC, (Maple Bay Marina) SR/FK, M25, Rocna 10 (22#) (NZ model)
Stu Jackson is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 20-07-2016, 06:51   #13
Registered User

Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Carrabelle, Florida
Boat: Self-built 44' steel trawler
Posts: 852
Re: This stanchion base is good for anchoring,,,,

The Doubloon, yawl, 1964, off Charleston SC caught in gale, on bare or near bare poles, crew buttoned up below, first mate at helm. She did a 360 degree roll. Skipper came on deck, could not find first mate, assumed he was lost, went below. Half an hour later, knock at cabin door. It was first mate; he had been hanging under the transom by his life line. She did another roll that night. She was towed into Charleston.
https://books.google.com/books?id=Ct...leston&f=false
__________________
tkeithlu is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20-07-2016, 07:47   #14
Writing Full-Time Since 2014
 
thinwater's Avatar

Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Deale, MD
Boat: PDQ Altair, 32/34
Posts: 4,090
Re: This stanchion base is good for anchoring,,,,

Quote:
Originally Posted by Guy View Post
So I heard this story; there was this woman, a very healthy woman, who was dragged by her tether along side her boat for 8 days, she finally bounced back onboard.
Was she on windward or leeward when she fell? Perhaps we do not know, since the boat probably tacked unattended.

I'm not buying that people fall uphill.

I also do not like running lines to the bow or stern; they should stop one tether length short of that.
__________________
Gear Testing--Engineering--Sailing
https://sail-delmarva.blogspot.com/2017/01/the-book-store.html
"Keeping a Cruising Boat for Peanuts"
"Faster Cruising for the Coastal Sailor"
thinwater is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20-07-2016, 08:45   #15
Senior Cruiser

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Santa Cruz
Boat: Boatless Again
Posts: 4,140
Re: This stanchion base is good for anchoring,,,,

Quote:
Originally Posted by Guy View Post
So I heard this story; there was this woman, a very healthy woman, who was dragged by her tether along side her boat for 8 days, she finally bounced back onboard.
It was hours, not days, and it happened to a well known SoCal sailor while she was in Hawaii. I can't remember whether she was windward or leeward, but the right wave finally came along.
__________________

__________________
donradcliffe is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
anchor, anchoring

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Leaky Stanchion Base Repair shellphish Construction, Maintenance & Refit 9 13-03-2014 15:19
Anyone seen this toerail mount stanchion base? Westy2 Deck hardware: Rigging, Sails & Hoisting 4 14-09-2013 01:31
Sealing stanchion base where pulpit is attached? Stormsailor Construction, Maintenance & Refit 2 11-04-2013 12:21
Stanchion base for toe-rail? Jon Hacking Deck hardware: Rigging, Sails & Hoisting 11 07-10-2012 08:20
Need 1 1/8 Stanchion Base Inkwell Deck hardware: Rigging, Sails & Hoisting 1 23-10-2007 04:01


Our Communities

Our communities encompass many different hobbies and interests, but each one is built on friendly, intelligent membership.

» More about our Communities

Automotive Communities

Our Automotive communities encompass many different makes and models. From U.S. domestics to European Saloons.

» More about our Automotive Communities

Marine Communities

Our Marine websites focus on Cruising and Sailing Vessels, including forums and the largest cruising Wiki project on the web today.

» More about our Marine Communities


Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 17:50.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.