The Perfect 60' to 65' Cruising Boat

[Dockhead]

Originally Posted by captprogreso

the Garcia exploration 52 see at

almost everithing minus the tender opening

It's a very nice boat. I've actually been on the smaller version of this boat, and was very impressed.

It does not have a real pilothouse like I have on my list, but deck salon is high enough that you can see over the deck from a seated position -- this is principally different from the normal "deck salon" arrangement where you can see over the deck only from a standing position. I like it -- it actually sort of fulfills the purpose of a pilothouse, particularly since the nav station has perfect view forward over the deck and with an engine control there. That's very nice indeed.

The boat seems a little small to me (coming from a 54 footer with 16' beam) and the sleeping cabins are quite a bit tighter than what I have now. Salon is much smaller with the galley stuffed in there too. Might be hard for me to get used to. But that's the price of having -- finally -- proper technical spaces and deck storage. Might be worth it.

But all in all -- a really nice boat, with a lot of details considered which are really important to long distance and high latitude sailors, which are not considered in normal cruising boats. I like it very much -- thanks for posting this.

Another huge advantage of this boat is that it is shockingly cheap -- only €700k without VAT, presumably without sails or electronics, but still -- this is like 1/3 of what I would expect to pay for a custom build. Would be under a million, probably, all in, if I didn't need to pay VAT. That might move my plans forward. Hmmmm.

[captprogreso]

I just jump from a 33 bluewater boat to a hunter 41.
I think size can only allow you to carry more stuff, to become more and more prone to fix this change that etc.
there are travelers making thousend of miles in a very small boats. There are others looking for a 65 perfect boat.
There is not asuch thing, what you can find as i did , is a sailboat were my family stop complaning about basic things like limited water, too small head etc. Then if you like like sailing, and you are not afraid how small or big it is, you have just find the perfect sailboat.
Happy sailing.
This Garcia sailboat is my dream sailboat, but my hunter 41 is making me happy has happy i can be.

[BCookCornwall]

1 foot over , nice yacht tho for cruising.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UiNiHdky68&t=14s

[TernEggs]

People are talking about "floating condos" but referring to boats that to me are more like "floating houses!" Maybe that's just the millennial in me speaking though.

[savoir]

Should you ever see a guy mowing the lawn on the aft deck you might be right. Pulling weeds on the bottom doesn't count.

[Kenomac]

Originally Posted by Kenomac

Oyster 625 is being build to fulfill the market described. BUT... I was on an Oyster 62 just last week because I was considering the purchase of a 62, and discovered all I would get for the extra money was crews quarters and the added headache of dealing with heavier objects like the sails. The Oyster 56 and 575 actually work better for a cruising couple because the crew isn't needed, so no space is dedicated to having them.

We've decided to stick with what we have. The boat is finally equipped perfect for the two of us, and for 3-4 others who might visit. If necessary, the two of us can manage taking down the sails and my wife is capable of hoisting me up the mast. A good friend who's chartered his Swan 65 for ten years, also advised me against any sailboat larger than 60ft. It's not the docking or sailing the vessel that's the problem, it's managing and dealing with the heavier objects.

‘Funny how much things change in four years; I just stumbled on this old post of mine which was much forgotten.

Earlier today, Pam and I took down the two jibs by ourselves on the 62, folded them on-deck, then with the help of Pam’s brilliant idea... used the spinnaker halyard to lift the sails into a shore cart. We then loaded both Yankee and staysail into our Scion XB and delivered them to the loft for cleaning and minor repairs.

It can be done... even by two 61 year olds.

[fallingeggs]

Originally Posted by Kenomac

‘Funny how much things change in four years; I just stumbled on this old post of mine which was much forgotten.

Earlier today, Pam and I took down the two jibs by ourselves on the 62, folded them on-deck, then with the help of Pam’s brilliant idea... used the spinnaker halyard to lift the sails into a shore cart. We then loaded both Yankee and staysail into our Scion XB and delivered them to the loft for cleaning and minor repairs.

It can be done... even by two 61 year olds. [emoji3][emoji3]

Ah, but whatcha doing with the crew quarters? (Or maybe your 62 doesn't have them?)

[Kenomac]

Originally Posted by fallingeggs

Ah, but whatcha doing with the crew quarters? (Or maybe your 62 doesn't have them?)

I’m seriously considering using both boats for charter service.

[poiu]

Originally Posted by Kenomac

‘Funny how much things change in four years; I just stumbled on this old post of mine which was much forgotten.

Earlier today, Pam and I took down the two jibs by ourselves on the 62, folded them on-deck, then with the help of Pam’s brilliant idea... used the spinnaker halyard to lift the sails into a shore cart. We then loaded both Yankee and staysail into our Scion XB and delivered them to the loft for cleaning and minor repairs.

It can be done... even by two 61 year olds.

You should have got a 66 if handling the sails was your limitation on size as two people can deal with the sails on my boat. It is close to the limit for two though. I don't think a couple could go very much bigger.

[Kenomac]

Originally Posted by poiu

You should have got a 66 if handling the sails was your limitation on size as two people can deal with the sails on my boat. It is close to the limit for two though. I don't think a couple could go very much bigger.

‘You sure about that?

[poiu]

Maybe you and yours could manage, but me and mine would struggle.

[JJ77]

Originally Posted by Dockhead

Nice boats, but fall far, far short of fulfilling my list of requirements. A motor sailer??!! Bah! I must have 5 knot VMG to windward! For that I need a real sailing machine, bulb keel, probably carbon rig.

This boat is closer: Beowulf - 80ft Skip Dashew Design

Wow, what a beast. Just a bit too long, at about 80 feet. I just couldn't dock that anywhere where I sail, unfortunately. Otherwise, that's getting really close.

The Beasts are now both 4sale

https://nl.yachtworld.com/boten/1998...rcher-3652945/

https://nl.yachtworld.com/boten/1999...rcher-3674306/

https://sailgodspeed.com/features.php

they are still 80ft after all those years...

Cheers,
JJ

[Dockhead]

Originally Posted by JJ77

The Beasts are now both 4sale

https://nl.yachtworld.com/boten/1998...rcher-3652945/

https://nl.yachtworld.com/boten/1999...rcher-3674306/

https://sailgodspeed.com/features.php

they are still 80ft after all those years...

Cheers,
JJ

Yeah, Beowulf has been for sale for a while.


I think both old boats will need quite a lot of investment and updating, and I find them pretty pricy considering.


Course it would be cool to own Beowulf . . .