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Old 04-02-2016, 14:54   #31
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Re: The Most Monohull Brand For the Least Money?

Snort, Salty, et al,
Some may think I'm biased, but in all honesty I think the answer for a "brand" is easy:
Catalina....

And, if want a specific model???
Well, just about any of them, in any condition, as they will sell for an appropriate price based on their size, age, and condition...

But, in my opinion, for a full-sized, world cruiser....the answer is:
Catalina 470...

























And, for a pocket cruiser, or weekender, it's:
Catalina 30....or any of its more recent variations, such as the current Catalina 315...

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Okay, here are the rules....
Nominate a sailboat you think is a lot of boat for very little money.
It's got to be sturdy, not have too many glaring repair issue concerns, and sort of easy on the eyes.
Brand is enough, but if you know a specific model, throw in that info as well.
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NO FAIR
NO one is talking NEW. What about NEW boats from manufacturers (not used)
Again, I'm sure many will think I'm just spouting off 'cause I own a Catalina 470....but I grew up sailing on a Hinckley southwester....and a new SW-52 is a work of art as much as it's a sailboat....so...

So, you can all have your Westsail's, Columbia's, etc...and even Bavaria's, etc....
My answer is:
Catalina...

And, for those that poo-pooh Catalina, please have a look yourself.....I think you'll be surprised!



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Jeanneau
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Hanse
Bavaria
Catalina

There i say'd it
That's better...
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The Cherubini Hunters, are hands down great boats for little $. Built from 1975 to 1983. Model sizes were 25', 27', 30', 33', 36' , 37', They have/had more/better features than comparable production boats of this time period. My family has owned a 1981 H27 since 1983, and over the years have I have been in all other production boats and the Hunters have better interior finish, more opening ports, hatches, beefed up hardware in most cases. I am sure this will create a storm for Hh's (Hunter Haters), knock yourselves out.

We still have our trusty 1981 and also a 08 41ds Hunter. The Cherubini Hunters also enjoy a mini "cult" status amongst old school sailors. Good luck
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The Cherubini Hunters, are hands down great boats for little $. Built from 1975 to 1983. Model sizes were 25', 27', 30', 33', 36' , 37', They have/had more/better features than comparable production boats of this time period. My family has owned a 1981 H27 since 1983, and over the years have I have been in all other production boats and the Hunters have better interior finish, more opening ports, hatches, beefed up hardware in most cases. I am sure this will create a storm for Hh's (Hunter Haters), knock yourselves out.

We still have our trusty 1981 and also a 08 41ds Hunter. The Cherubini Hunters also enjoy a mini "cult" status amongst old school sailors. Good luck
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Snort, Salty, et al,
Some may think I'm biased, but in all honesty I think the answer for a "brand" is easy:
Catalina....

And, if want a specific model???
Well, just about any of them, in any condition, as they will sell for an appropriate price based on their size, age, and condition...

But, in my opinion, for a full-sized, world cruiser....the answer is:
Catalina 470...

























And, for a pocket cruiser, or weekender, it's:
Catalina 30....or any of its more recent variations, such as the current Catalina 315...

Again, I'm sure many will think I'm just spouting off 'cause I own a Catalina 470....but I grew up sailing on a Hinckley southwester....and a new SW-52 is a work of art as much as it's a sailboat....so...

So, you can all have your Westsail's, Columbia's, etc...and even Bavaria's, etc....
My answer is:
Catalina...

And, for those that poo-pooh Catalina, please have a look yourself.....I think you'll be surprised!



Fair winds..

John

Don't own one but of all "affordable" new boats I'd pick Catalina hands down. Just spent a week on a chartered 2015 Bavaria 46 and have to say build quality is POS. Caulk everywhere to finish joints. Brass through hills. IKEA grade veneer interior.


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I have always loved the Miura 31 after a nice afternoon sail in a decent breeze.
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I like Catalinas too, despite what I've been told to think.
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little money NEW vs little money OLD

Lets give both as Im interested in NEW opinions as well !

You can always start a New Thread for New Boats


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Bavaria 42 Cruiser - a big bang for your buck!!
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Grew up on the Great Lakes with a C&C 35. Great boat. Fast and could take the poundings of the Great Lakes. Still some around here at very reasonable prices.
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Nominate a sailboat you think is a lot of boat for very little money.
It's got to be sturdy, not have too many glaring repair issue concerns, and sort of easy on the eye.
Laser!

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Mariner 36 (NH built not the Taiwan built, 2 different companies). As these were not very well known outside New England area and under 100 were built they don't command the price of Sabre or Pearson but quality wise considered on par or better. Very nice lines as well. Some people are put off by popular back then darkish teak interior but for a frugal buyer that is an asset as the sellers are forced to discount due to modern taste for light IKEA-like look.

Also they draw only 5' and the stick is 51' making them great boats for ICW, Florida, Bahamas, etc. Very solid and even ride due to good hull shape and considerable heft - 17,000lbs empty and probably 20,000lbs loaded with all the gear, etc. If it doesn't have any major structural issues can be a great and comfortable coastal sailor from, the get go. Need very little to be an offshore comfortable, mostly new routine maintenance replacements such as rigging, lifelines etc. if not done recently by POs.

Here is one currently asking $27K

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I really think most folks will find this thread headed to the CCA boats of the 60s for the most boat for least money, with designers like Alberg, Sparkman & Stephens, Rhodes, Alden, Morgan, Tripp, who am I missing? And brands like Tartan, Columbia, Cape Dory, Pearson ...and? I have seen many, still well-cared for and in great shape, but because they are old many buyers wrongfully assume they are no good. And there are many rotting in yards and marinas that are still potentially great boats with solid hulls, that still command a lot of respect from some of us older guys and gals with a little experience. There were two Columbia 29s, MK1 and Defender, that came up recently near me that ended up being given away basically, and I REALLY considered getting them somehow, but my wife in her wisdom gently talked me out of it. Well, sort of gently. There are a few boats from the 70s/80s I would not consider even if they were free. BUT I really agree that the Westerly also qualifies as a good old brand!
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