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Old 05-06-2010, 17:42   #76
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edge ?

Galliano edge? Hmmm, I think she is sort of like Contessa on drugs. Good boat, I think the design called Cavallier or something like this. Pretty popular in NZ and perhaps AUS.

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Old 05-06-2010, 18:24   #77
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Looked at a Morgan 382 this afternoon. beautiful boat and layout. cockpit seemed too large though. I'd be tempted to put in 4 additional drains. inner halyards a concern as well. everything else had a good feel, and I thought I could solo her easily
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Old 05-06-2010, 18:28   #78
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Like this?

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Old 06-06-2010, 05:07   #79
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Ahhh BoatMan61, you are a genius too. No doubt about that.

But call me terribly old school. Got to have me my bridge deck. Maybe a few too many old stinkin books from the sailor library over the years, or bad experiences on el Contessa. Besides, I can use the bridge deck for a fashion runway in port with pretty girls on them walking and parading up and down just for me...with the dodger acting as an orchestra shell.

In any case, I seem to have learned I am old school. And if not a fisher need that old school boat with a tiller. And little else. Or something as close as possible. Small or not. Hence the list becomes or remains

Tayana 37
Cape Dory 36
HC 33
Westsail 32
Ingrid 38
Alajeula 33
Young Sun 35

And my inside steering in order of liking:

Fisher 30
Gulf 32
LM 30

We'll keep these on the sides to look at:

Morgan 382, 383, 384
Cape Dory 33, 31, 30

I'm still undecided about the Aires 32 I see for sale...

And a couple of one offs...

1988 Cape Dory 300 MS pilothouse motorsailer Sail Boat For Sale -

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If you like the Tayana and the Young Sun, I'd also look at a Baba 35. I think they are better than either of those two. They were built by Ta-Shing boatyard who were considered the best in Taiwan at the time.
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Old 06-06-2010, 10:16   #80
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Baba 35 was on my list and not chosen. Not sure the reason. Scores well. I think perhaps I couldn't find one that had glass decks. There is one listing out there I see that does have one. Good point.
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Baba is cool, also the smaller one. Maybe you can get the 30' with grp deck?

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Old 06-06-2010, 19:08   #82
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I think Galliano is 32 not 39. (Cavallier). She did not look 39, at the dock.

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Old 06-06-2010, 19:29   #83
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I must be crazy. I'm checking out Catalina's and Hunters this afternoon online. Sundays make me wild.
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That's what you are. You really need to get ahold of your senses man! I do enjoy your questions and musings, keep up the good work. Did I see a Beneteau First 38 on your list yet?
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I really like this! For the age, hull material and cost I think it would be hard to beat.
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Steel Sloop in SF Area - hard to tell really. Its a one off and could not sail well, or may have some construction issues.

Hunters, Beneteau's, and Catalinas - interesting enough.

Surprisingly, although the following don't score at the top of the list, they still calculate adequate at least in metrics:

- Hunter Cherubini 37, 35.5, 33, 32 vision, 31.
- Catalina 34 MK II, 320

Who knows what the quality of the construction is like. And you can question the rudder and keel. However, they are affordable.

Couldn't find any Beneteau #'s on the 1980 models 38, 456. The 42 didn't calculate very well scoring only a 2/10. But not sure using standard YD calcs is going to tell us here with these boats.

Interestingly, looking at speed - a Fast Passage 39 scores high in calcs and sails fast and might be the target to buy. The fisher 37 believe it or not. Also the Corbin, Rafiki, Ingrid and Tayana are all good. Really we are talking splitting hairs though.
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Fast Passage would be a good choice for me. Francis Stokes sailed one in one of the early BOC singlehanded round the world races, so they must perform pretty well. I almost looked at a Corbin but too much freeboard and I can't imagine they sail anything like the Fast Passage.

I'd still look at the steel boat first, but then I like metal boats and one offs.
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oh yeah doodle. steel no doubt about it. Would feel better if it was a PH though.

There is a fast passage 39 for sale, but its around 99k. fast passage calculates around the same as a corbin, but is a bit faster. All theory anyway.

Pragmatically Tayana 37, Morgan 382, Ingrid 38 I think I can handle $$.

But the metal is steeling my heart...so i need to go slow!
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Here, lets just go for it. Hunter 31 has good specs. And you can afford a new one...

2010 Hunter New Sail Boat For Sale - www.yachtworld.com

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Something else you might like ...

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