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Old 07-07-2010, 15:48   #181
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Similar to Nicholson 31 ...which I like a lot.

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Old 07-07-2010, 17:36   #182
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Very nice doodles! a rare find!
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Old 07-07-2010, 17:40   #183
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SaltyMonkey is starting to get adventuresome (or maybe desperate) and going off the edge looking at C&C, Cal's, Catalina's, Beneteau, other Pearsons, Moody, Nicholson, and maybe Peterson - with a sit down chart table (with a back) and a rear cabin.
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Old 07-07-2010, 19:20   #184
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Salty,

You know the good part when you finally find the boat is ... you found the boat.

The bad part about finding the boat is ... you found the boat.
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Old 07-07-2010, 19:51   #185
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Doodles - yeah don't I know it. It appears every-time I look at one that I like, after a while I don't trust it, and I find another that I think I like more, and on and on...

You're lucky you have the Pretorian to make you settled.
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Old 07-07-2010, 20:15   #186
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Doodles - yeah don't I know it. It appears every-time I look at one that I like, after a while I don't trust it, and I find another that I think I like more, and on and on...

You're lucky you have the Pretorian to make you settled.
Yeah, but I'm always looking for the next one! In a few years we think we want to move up a bit. Either a ~40' aluminum mono (Ovni or Garcia) or a 40-45' cat. We're never satisfied.
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Old 08-07-2010, 07:55   #187
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Ovni - I WISH!!
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Old 08-07-2010, 14:34   #188
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I did not read all the replies, but the first on my list would be:

Wauquiez pretorien 35.

My dad bought one last year and I have to say it rules any sub 35 foot boat I have ever encountered. It is strong, extremely well built/designed, has decent storage, Sails great in light and heavy breeze and it has a very spacious interior. I sold my S&S 34 back in Jan. 2009 because I was going back to school.I was pretty bummed. As soon as I sailed on my old mans Pretorien it reminded me why I decided to go back to school. Because I want a serious boat upgrade. That boat will be a (pre-beneteau.) Wauquiez.

These are the rest of the boats that would be on my list:
S&S 34
Wauquiez Centurion 32
Wauquiez Gladiator 33
contessa 32
arpege 30
fast passage 39
Allied seawind I/II, luders 35
Rival 32/34
corbin 39
sigma 36Camper Nicholson 35
Older Grand Soleil 36
southern Cross 31/35
Miura 31
Farr 1220
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Jonmeri 33
finngulf 34

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Old 08-07-2010, 15:16   #189
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cpa - thanks for you input!
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Ovni - I WISH!!
Didn't think you would go for the swing keel of an Ovni Salty. What do you think of this? Aluminum, swing keel, small pilot house and right at $100K (thank you euro), too bad its in Spain.

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Old 08-07-2010, 16:58   #191
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Doodles - that is beautiful. Spain isn't too far from Virginia. Why not go for it? Great for where you are and the carib.

So, far, out of all the CC and aft cabins (C&C, Peterson, Catalina, Cals, Islander etc) I like the layout of the Fantasia 35 the best, but alas she probably sails like a p-i-g. Wish I had that layout in a moderate displacement.

I've also started looking at large ocean race boats as an option. Sparce, open, and affordable.

None of these are on the major suggested cruiser lists.
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Old 08-07-2010, 17:10   #192
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I've also started looking at large ocean race boats as an option. Sparce, open, and affordable.
Any samples to share that we can drool over?
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Old 08-07-2010, 17:39   #193
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Well just search on yachtworld for:

35' Coronado 73 center

36' Columbia
39' Beneteau Oceanis 390
38' Beneteau First
Beneteau 405

41' 1972 Tartan Sloop

39' Contessa

41' Morgan 41 Classic Center Cockpit

44' Peterson
40.6' Peterson Custom 41

35' Yorktown 35C

38' Irwin Center Cockpit Sloop

39' Cal Corinthian
39' Cal Cruising Sloop


40' C & C 37/40 +
40' C & C 37R
C&C Landfall 39 Center Cockpit
39' C & C Northeast 39
39' C&C 1972
38' C & C MK III
38' C & C LandFall *
38' C&C YACHTS Mk II

42' Catalina 3 Cabin
42' Catalina MK I
38' Catalina 382
38' Catalina

With emphasis on - sit down chart table (prefer with a back!); aft cabin; speed!

One of the nice things about the few racers is the large drainable cockpits + speed. The sparcity below makes it easy to fix it up anyway you want, or store more gear. Also since you don't have rail meat you can carry more things below such as water, fuel and perhaps a spare mast when you roll it =).
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I've also started looking at large ocean race boats as an option. Sparce, open, and affordable.
Sparce, open, affordable: Santa Cruz 50 (or 52)
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Cherubini ...

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