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Old 23-10-2011, 14:00   #31
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Re: The End of a Myth?

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even t 8+ kts in a 60 + kt wind, cockpit stayed dry. was fun!!

(would stick out my tongue t ye but that isnt nice!!! LOL)
I believe. I was only teasing ya ;-)

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Old 24-10-2011, 16:22   #32
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Re: The End of a Myth ?

It still has a 6.71 nm lead, as of last report. My grandma used to say "beauty is what beauty does"...
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Old 24-10-2011, 16:43   #33
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Re: The End of a Myth ?

I like the fact that it looks like a narwhale and besides it would make a great sub conversion!
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Re: The End of a Myth ?

Yup. And she has to sail a broader angle. You know the conditions they are having right now.

Boat number 2 is faster by about .5 knot now (10% boat speed) yet she is just as fast as boat number 3.

Should the conditions be regular I assume he will bear off and let others sail to his windward while trying to keep the speed potential and re-gaining the distance 'lost' later when the wind backs (actually it does not but the boat changes its relation to the High).

And to all ya nayers ;-) I am sending you guys two more pics: one is an older Scandinavian design, the other is a bit newer though still 'old' French one.

Nil novi sub sole!

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Old 25-10-2011, 02:18   #35
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Re: The End of a Myth ?

This is a rule beater. The rule says 6.5m and this is shaped more like a 7.5m with the last 1m cut off and rounded off. This gives more beam toward the front for a stiffer boat that will also not pitch nose down so much as it heals. This scow design only works because its a light boat that planes. If it were heavy it would be like sailing with a drogue down. There is a thread on boatdesign.net on this boat that has been going for months. The idea wont be taking off soon for cruising boats.

These are also fast boats. Search E scow.

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Old 25-10-2011, 07:12   #36
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Re: The End of a Myth ?

Meanwhile the bad, inadequate, ugly boat has picked up its usual pace and is clocking just .01 knot faster than the chase.

But man, there are so many beautiful, amazing boats around: as dennisail posted - and I have not sailed them yet!

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Old 25-10-2011, 08:37   #37
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Ha, with a 6.5m waterline bet that stops dead in the water in a short choppy sea. I await the you tube videos of it sailing in challenging conditions of wind over tide.

Still multiply it up t 40 feet and it would make a great area for a double cabin in the bow. Future 40ft quad cabins to squeeze the charters in perhaps.

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Right on Pete,Anyone from northern waters would know that this bow cannot be driven to windward in bigger seas or the steep chops that devolop with wind over a significant current. Yes ,downwind I can make an airstream trailer move with a bed sheet, but if you are going to venture further afield than your comfortable marina ,you will want a boat that can handle more challenging conditions in open waters. Futhermore, if a boat is ugly ,can you really ever really love her?
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It looks too much like a lake scow to say it is something new.

Just an evolution. Perhaps a dead-end path. perhaps not.

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Re: The End of a Myth ?

Nissan has been running a TV commercial featuring their new car carrier, big bulbous bow that comes all the way up to the top deck, not like a conventional ship at all. They claim it cuts so much wind resistance it is a revolutionary advance in ship design.

But then again, submarines don't have pointy bows either, right?
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Futhermore, if a boat is ugly ,can you really ever really love her?
but she's not ugly and besides, there's always beauty in an elegant design, even if it is different?

also, the more you love something, the more you see it's beauty, then you love it more, and so on. . .
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Re: The End of a Myth ?

That new fangles steam will never replace sails on ocean going passenger ships. And ocean going sailing ships will always be the fastest way to cross the Atlantic or the Pacific.
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That new fangles steam will never replace sails on ocean going passenger ships. And ocean going sailing ships will always be the fastest way to cross the Atlantic or the Pacific.
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Re: The End of a Myth ?

Wow, its gained almost 14 nm on second runner in the last 24 hrs. That is what I call a race, 20 nm separation between the leaders.

Someone else not so lucky.
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Re: The End of a Myth ?

Been around along time this design
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Been around along time this design
Yes, Magellhanes, Cook and Drake all of them sailed ugly boats ;-))) Sure they got nowhere in them too !!! ;-)))))))))))))))

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