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Old 21-09-2012, 21:41   #226
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Re: The Death of the Ketch ?

Remember a ketch with comparable sail area, has a lot lower mast. Sailing around bridges? A tall sloop would mean lowering the mast. Not fun.
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Old 22-09-2012, 01:11   #227
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I'm sorry ketches are lovely to look at, as are all multi-mast boats. The are however outclassed these days that's obvious.
So are you ketch disabled?
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Old 22-09-2012, 01:30   #228
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Re: The Death of the Ketch ?

I bought a ketch not knowing what to expect and will never look back. Cruisers who knock them haven't owned one. And, yes, she a styling little ship!
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Old 22-09-2012, 04:19   #229
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So are you ketch disabled?
I am ketchabled, ketch compliant, ketch friendly, ketch mizzmerizzed.

In fact, one could say I am totally and completely Mizzerable.
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Old 22-09-2012, 05:15   #230
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Haha.. Les Mizzerables
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Old 22-09-2012, 07:05   #231
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Re: The Death of the Ketch ?

My favorite one!

AMEL 64 - YouTube
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Old 22-09-2012, 07:20   #232
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Re: The Death of the Ketch ?

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Old 22-09-2012, 07:35   #233
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My favorite one!

AMEL 64 - YouTube
That is a beauty, and well thought out for single-handed sailing by a man and wife.

I was also impressed with her sail shapes and cuts, particularly as she is carrying two in-mast furling ones.

Thanks for posting that.
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Old 22-09-2012, 07:44   #234
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Well dog gone it Im as much of a old fogie as they come ! and Ive sailed most every type of rig thats been made !! Connie and my first(together) sail boat was a schooner !a junk rigged schooner at that ! They all sail ! But if ya want ease and ya cant afford a 500,000 up all powered fancy boat ! Looking at a ketch is one of the best places to go !! Sure it may be a little slower then the Big sloops or cutters,(maybe I said) but they, with there smaller sails make raiseing and reefing a little eaiser for a couple ! and if your lucky enough to find one with a staysail, you have even more ease! Ive found that with a reefed mizzen, and a staysail ya can sail in some pretty rough weather comfortabley!! At my age and with the amount of money I have to spend to get a bluewater boat, I have to look at ketchs, and Im glad of it !! We are now making an offer on a 51 fter ! after having had a survey we are ready to buy her !! so when ya see a big ketch out there with a couple of old goomers on it ! it my be us !! Hooray for ketchs !!
Lots of deals out there for way less than 1/2 million and on some nice vessels. They don't need to be slow either. Its mostly about water line.

We are 55,000 disp; 58 LOA; 45 LWL; 16 beam; 80 ft main and 48 ft mizzen; with cutter staysail; mizzen staysail. Main & mizzen are roller furl in-mast and the main is powered. We use a Milwaukee 1/2 inch rt angle drill with winch adapter for power where we need it. 1984 Camper & Nicholson 58 was hurricane Ivan damaged and acquired for well less than half of prevailing rate for good condition sister-ships. It did require a lot of elbow grease to bring back.

Also note to GaryMayo - our main mast is the same height as my cousin's 58 foot cutter rigged Camper 58. He and I were both surprised to learn that. We easily make 9-10 knots in a fair breeze. My cousin told us he made 15 knots for 7 days crossing the S Pacific on the trades.
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Old 22-09-2012, 08:07   #235
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Nothing looks better than a ketch flying a mizzen staysail or a mule.
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Old 22-09-2012, 08:20   #236
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Re: The Death of the Ketch ?

Give me by all means the Nicholson 58. The Amel looks beautiful save for the horrible portlights in the hull. My little lady sports a same kind of daylight inlets but give hardly any light at all. And weakens the hull.
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Old 22-09-2012, 10:16   #237
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Sorry to say, but that Amel looks but ugly to me.
Love the shots of the Formosa, is that a fisherman you are flying?
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Old 22-09-2012, 11:21   #238
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Sorry to say, but that Amel looks but ugly to me.
Love the shots of the Formosa, is that a fisherman you are flying?
It's a mule, main staysail.
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Old 22-09-2012, 17:55   #239
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Sorry to say, but that Amel looks but ugly to me.
Love the shots of the Formosa, is that a fisherman you are flying?
It takes all kinds of people for all kinds of boats! But to call a Amel an ugly boat is a little bit extreme, some features may not be of your taste but these boats are still considered beautiful luxury yachts. By the way what do you sail?
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Old 22-09-2012, 20:23   #240
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Not trying to offend. It is just that i really don't like the look of those newer boats with the long slits for windows. There is somthing about them that looks sinister to me. But that is only my humble opinion. I don't have to buy one.

Btw, I have a CT 35 ketch, a CS27, a Ranger 23, an Alberg 22, and an I14. So you can see that I like more classic styling.
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