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Old 15-04-2009, 15:30   #16
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Corrosion or rust. The good ones dont have this, and they are more expensive than a plastic boat.

lots of cheap metal boats are homemade. Not always bad, but who knows?
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Old 15-04-2009, 15:45   #17
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The main problem with steel yachts is that many are aged and were built using single pack paints. 2 pack paints have opened up a whole new life for steel in the marine environment, however most of the steel yachts on the market here in Oz have rust issues (we looked at lots and lots of them).

We only looked at 2 alu yachts and one looked fine at first but there were pin holes of electrolytic corrosion all through the hull, ouch. I think that we would buy a alluminmium yacht if we knew the history and it was properly protected.

Make us an Ovni in "monel" and most of the worries about corrosion will be over, should not have to antifoul it either !
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Thanks only asked to draw attention to what is already widely known. When I said cheaper on the market that is more pronounced in the US.
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There will always be a "new" system for painting steel boats that is "guaranteed" to be better than all past paint systems and prevent rust. At least that's what I have seen in my 30 years of following this subject. "Rust never sleeps"
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Old 14-09-2009, 05:56   #20
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Ovnis are very sturdy yachts. When we were cruising in the Canaries, we saw this one that sailed up on a reef. A fiberglass yacht probably would not have survived.











thanks for nice info. this boat is now for sale, and the shop trying to sell her is telling nothing about this. (245k euros in Holland) its a 455 ovni.
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it is a good thing to check all info you can get. use the Googel motors out there
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Old 14-09-2009, 06:07   #21
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Steel boats are not less value on the s/h market - look at all those koopmans (built in Dutch yards).

There are fewer alu homebuilts than steel homebuilts. And the homebuilts are cheaper than yard builts. Thus steel seems cheaper than alu.

But if you go for a HQ steel it will be as or more, expensive.

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BTW I love OVNIS, and Garcias twice that much. One needs a dream to go on.

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Yep, I dream of OVNI's when the mind wanders down the path of imagination.
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from the 5 till the 9 of october i will sail again on an ovni 385
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@careka,

true i have send them an email about this some time ago (incl pictures) but never got any reply from them (dutch broker). how silly from them to just ignore this as the internet is open to all and google is your friend.

i must say by looking at the 'new' pictures they did do a good job thou.
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- - "ribbony" said it in two words, one word would be "rust". Used steel normally is sold because the owner cannot afford to maintain the boat which means it is rusting from the inside out. Bulkheads, stringers, bilges all fill with rain water or seawater and slowly eat away at the hull. If the outside bottom of the boat has been painted with copper anti-fouling paint without proper barrier and primer coats you end up with a wonderful battery and electrolysis resulting in porous and thin steel plates. Even a deep gouge the takes away the copper bottom paint and underlying primers needs prompt fixing. I have been able to push a flat blade screwdriver though some bottoms of steel boats with advance electrolysis problems.
- - And the big one, if the boat is not built from "Cor-ten" steel the rusting process will be astronomically fast. A steel boat came into the boatyard many years back and we all thought it was 20 years old from the rust and eaten through hull plates. It was less than one year old. They had used common steel plates to build the boat and no primers/barriers coats underneath the copper anti-fouling paint.
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It looks pretty good after the repairs, in the photos at least

2003 Ovni 455 Sail Boat For Sale - www.yachtworld.com
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Wow, is that the same boat. Awesome !

Must have cost a packet to repair it. Nice interior photos as well.
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i think it's being repaired here Sailing yachts custom built, K&M Yachtbuilders, Netherlands and they know how to build aluminium yachts!
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