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01-01-2016, 11:51
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Location: Lake City MN
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Re: Teleflex single lever control removal
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Originally Posted by captain mitch
Just a quick reminder to look for a SECOND lock screw below the one you removed.
Frequently a set screw is "locked" in place by running a second down over the first.
Maby, just check before putting too much heat to the part
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This is a very common practice for items that you don't want to fall off and where you may not have loctite blue available. E.g pre loctite this was the primary method of locking set screws.
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01-01-2016, 11:57
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#17
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Vancouver, BC
Boat: X Yacht, 1 ton, 40'
Posts: 68
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Re: Teleflex single lever control removal
Thanks for the offer Sailorbob8599.
I actually tried the 2 slim crowbar method first and managed to chip a bit of the lever. But I will be trying it again..but this time with liberal amounts of penetrating oil and heat.
I'm on P dock in Point Roberts. P36 (I think) not too many blue hull fractional rigs on P. Look forward to meeting you some time.
I'm surprised by how many have had issues with the throttle. I assumed these things were bulletproof. ...the joys of boating :-)
regards
Gerard
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01-01-2016, 12:01
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#18
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Vancouver, BC
Boat: X Yacht, 1 ton, 40'
Posts: 68
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Re: Teleflex single lever control removal
Good idea Captain Mitch.
I recall my folding prop uses this 2 set screw method to hold the blades on....
and I didnt check for this possibility. Stay tuned!
regards
Gerard
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01-01-2016, 13:01
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#19
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Toronto, Canada
Boat: Luders 33 - hull 23
Posts: 1,787
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Re: Teleflex single lever control removal
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Originally Posted by grjfield
...Its good to know I can pick up a new lever if needed. Also found the manual for the throttle online. Will attempt to attach to this reply...
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May I ask why you are removing it?
I had one of these on my previous boat and wanted to fit one on my current... until I saw its price. I decided to have two levers instead.
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01-01-2016, 17:58
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#20
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Vancouver, BC
Boat: X Yacht, 1 ton, 40'
Posts: 68
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Re: Teleflex single lever control removal
I recently converted my sailboat from diesel to electric. The thought of slipping silently in and out of the marina appeals to me. It remains to be seem whether range anxiety will get the better of me...but its been a fun project so far.
The boat has a lot of potential (meaning I'll be spending a few bucks on it this year! lol)
MY kids and I did a patching/sanding/priming/painting of the hull last fall and its looking good so far. I'm planning to add solar as an option and am intrigued how efficient the regen capability of the electric system will be. I have replaced my old saildrive with an Electric Sillette Sonic Mark II saildrive, and hooked it up to a 10 KW motor, packing a relatively small 235 amp hour (lead acid) battery store. I intend to upgrade to Lithiums in a few years. The system comes with a much smaller throttle so I'll be swapping throttles...hence the need to remove the old one. I am hoping to remove the diesel engine and associated gear eventually.
Sorry to go off topic for a stuck lever..but happy to share thoughts.
regards
Gerard
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02-01-2016, 05:05
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#21
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Senior Cruiser
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Thunder Bay, Ontario - 48-29N x 89-20W
Boat: (Cruiser Living On Dirt)
Posts: 49,082
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Re: Teleflex single lever control removal
Greetings and welcome aboard the CF, Derek P.
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16-01-2016, 09:56
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Vancouver, BC
Boat: X Yacht, 1 ton, 40'
Posts: 68
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Re: Teleflex single lever control removal
Update on lever removal.
Firstly...thanks to all who replied. I tried penetrating oil, heat, wiggling, prying, more heat, banging...but the level was determined to stay on the boat!
Then the light went on! (lol)
I realized that even if I was successful in removing the level through the small hole, that I would need to expend the hole in order to fit the new throttle. Once I determined the size of the new hole...out came the dremel and in 3 minutes I had an opening which allowed the level to drop into the hull. I will make the final cut a bit cleaner as it needs to be about 50% bigger...but I'm well on my way to something!
Thanks again!
Gerard
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06-02-2016, 12:12
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#23
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Vancouver, BC
Boat: X Yacht, 1 ton, 40'
Posts: 68
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Re: Teleflex single lever control removal success
One final thanks!
After liberal amounts of penetrating oil, application of heat and abundant gentle tapping, the lever has decided to separate from the linkage.
Thanks to all for the advice!
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06-02-2016, 14:28
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: virginia
Boat: islandpacket
Posts: 1,967
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Re: Teleflex single lever control removal
Great job! What project's next?
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06-02-2016, 19:52
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Vancouver, BC
Boat: X Yacht, 1 ton, 40'
Posts: 68
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Re: Teleflex single lever control removal
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Originally Posted by Badsanta
Great job! What project's next?
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Now I get to install the electric throttle, rewire the lights, radio, GPS and depth sounder...then I SAIL!!!
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06-02-2016, 21:54
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#26
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: virginia
Boat: islandpacket
Posts: 1,967
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Re: Teleflex single lever control removal
You listed 4 .
I have found for each thing that I want to do involves at least 3 steps. Its not a new light bulb, first I have to replace the socket, then I find a bad wire,then the switch is wiggley then its down to an intermittent breaker then I left the battery switch on and the battery is flat and now wont hold a charge and burned up the charger because of an internal short.
Good thing I bought the $40 led bulb to go with my $1,300 of new battery and charger.
I should have bought a flashlight and gone sailing.
Your list of 4 will end up being 12 thinge to do before you get to what you started first.. good luck. My list never gets short. But I do love it.
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07-02-2016, 10:24
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#27
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Vancouver, BC
Boat: X Yacht, 1 ton, 40'
Posts: 68
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Re: Teleflex single lever control removal
Quite Right Badsanta! Those are only the immediate things standing between myself and sailing.
I basically stripped out the boat prior to replacing the saildrive..
Lots of B&G expensive looking components, displays, coax connections, sensors etc ripped out. For some reason the ex-windsurfer in me says...Keep it simple (KIS) (a variation on the KISS principle I suppose!) ...so all the wiring will be new.
VHF, GPS and Depth are all set to be wired so I'm hoping they will be straightforward.
As for future projects.. I have enough to keep me puttering on deck for years.
I love it to!
G
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29-03-2017, 08:37
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#28
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Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Marina Del Rey,CA
Boat: 2000 Jeanneau, 45.2
Posts: 312
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Re: Teleflex single lever control removal
I have the same shifter as GRJFIELD. My issue is locating where the neutral safety start switch is (needs adjustment or replacement). Have the install PDF and it shows it installed on the shifter mechanism at the helm ... except I don't see the switch or any wiring at that location. Anyone have any thoughts?
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29-03-2017, 08:40
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#29
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Skagit City, WA
Posts: 25,453
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Re: Teleflex single lever control removal
If your unit has the switch on the control it is shown on page 7 here: http://www.seastarsolutions.com/wp-c...ion-manual.pdf
Otherwise it must be on the transmission. You are sure you have a safety switch? None of my diesels did. Not sure how that switch works without ignition engine. On a solenoid I guess?
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29-03-2017, 09:55
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#30
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Marina Del Rey,CA
Boat: 2000 Jeanneau, 45.2
Posts: 312
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Re: Teleflex single lever control removal
Indeed that is the same manual I have. I have a photo of the mechanism with the NSSS missing from the specified location. I have inspected the Kanzai transmission and cannot find any sort of external "shifter locating switch" ... could it be built into the tranny? BTW, thanks for the responses.
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