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Old 23-08-2009, 05:08   #16
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Nah, buxom mermaid slapping their tails on the hull, that kinda puts me to sleep with sweet dreams.

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Old 23-08-2009, 07:28   #17
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Roofing Nails vs Lions

This will catch me a world of cr-p, but Sea Lions will sink your boat...

I've got a friend, who puts short roofing nails on his swim platform.
It keeps bare foot thieves and Sea Lions off his platform.

He woke up one morning to find the stern of his boat almost underwater from the weight of the beasts on his platform!!!!

Folding aft decks are the way to go....

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Old 23-08-2009, 10:49   #18
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Here is my stern swim platform/ladder (up position) and I will also have a side ladder. Best of both?
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Old 23-08-2009, 11:13   #19
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Originally Posted by michael201 View Post
Here is my stern swim platform/ladder (up position) and I will also have a side ladder. Best of both?

My earlier concern was specifically for those swim platforms bolted on the back of some boats as an afterthought.
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Old 23-08-2009, 17:05   #20
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Sugar-scoop stern / Reverse-Transom / Integral Swim Platform

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What we like to know is the pro and con of a integrated swim platform (ie: island packet type) on a boat for a long cruise.
I'm assuming you're referring to the "sugar scoop" stern / reverse-transom / integral swim platform (as my boat has), and not some "after thought" added by the factory to an already-designed hull / deck......

In this case, in my opinion, there are few (if any) "cons".....and all "pros"....
But, there are times when boarding / loading from the side and sidedeck is preferable.....

I've cruised / voyaged (including Altlantic crossings, gales, storms, and Caribbean island hoping) on both "traditional" transom designs and reverse-transom designs with integral swim platforms....
And, I can say without hesitation, I prefer the latter.....(especially the ease of solo scuba diving right from the boat, etc.....)

Although they're too large to post directly on this board, please have a look at photos of my current boat's transom / swim platform.....
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In our eye
- easier access loading of jerrycan ect...
- MOB rescue
- Wave taking over
-Easier access but to people you don't want in the first place.

So for the people who have been around let us know what you think.

You asked for the thoughts of those "who have been around"......and here are mine....

To be blunt.......
1) Anyone that's done MOB drills with some sea running, as I have, will easily agree here....
MOB rescue is almost always going to be done from the sidedeck, near the center of motion of the vessel.....
Unless it is calm, and the MOB is uninjured, trying a recovery from the stern is most likely to seroiusly injury (or kill) the MOB, and I'd not recommend it......

2) While some might assume that jerry cans are a necessity, and while I do own a few myself....they are not necessary, and if I were you I'd not base my boat choice on "which one allows me to load jerry cans easier", not the least of which is the fact that most find loading them to/from the sidedeck much well as the fact that they're just not that big of a deal.....

3) "Wave over-taking"
NOT a problem....not at all.....

4) "Easier boarding for those who you don't wish on board"
Maybe, but if someone is motivated / eager to commit a crime, and are agile enough to swim / row to your boat, whether you have a swim-platform transom, or not, isn't going to make much of a difference.....

Secure your ladder, pushpit, cockpit access, etc....(and cabin access as well) if you're anchored in a high crime area, and feel the need.....

5) Some of the other comments about too much weight in the stern, loss of reserve bouyancy, etc. seem way off-base.....and are possibly opinions from those assuming that this would be some sort of "after-thought" on part of the factory.......but, that's not what you discussing....

I can't speak for everyone, just my opinions here, but a reverse-transom / swim-platform transom is a great thing.....

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