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Old 19-09-2012, 19:10   #16
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Re: Swan 42/003, 1981, Ron Holland

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I am looking at a Swan 371 1981, Holland design. I would appreciate any comments / experiences from other forum members on this design. Preferably from those who have actually sailed on one.

Did most of my early sailing on a Frers Swan 53 so have been ruined for the rest of my life....only a Swan will do!!!

Swans are incredible.. but also look at Baltic Yachts... some of the guys left swan and got into custom and semi-custom.... Lovely boats as well... Beautiful vessels.....
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If the fundamentals are good the Swans from the Holland period are excellent boats. Very solid build but make sure
you have a dry hull. At 30 years there will be quite a lot of systemic renewal required. However it's all straight forward.
You will find the yard quite helpful with old bits. They don't always have them but surprisingly often do. Some skill with
varnish refurbishment will also be useful.
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Old 23-02-2014, 16:06   #18
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Re: Swan 42/003, 1981, Ron Holland

Time to jump start an old thread. A 1986 RH Swan 43 has jumped up on my radar for $169K. Anyone have any experience on how this particular boat handles? We (wife and I) are looking for a safe cruiser, not looking to race and will probably never use the spinnaker.
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Re: Swan 42/003, 1981, Ron Holland

The 42 is a terrific sea boat and I imagine the 43 by Holland would be similar. When we purchased the 42 the Nautor operative of Nautor Swan Benelux said he felt the fore triangle was a bit large for two people on the 43.
I think the 43 has a single cockpit which makes life easier when doing quick tacks short handed than the 42 which has two cockpits. It means you can only operate one person per cockpit, IE no help with tailing etc. Not really a problem long range with autopilot or wind vane.
The large bridge deck makes for unprotected sailing at times for crew on watch.
Bigger dodgers can be fitted but they produce a crap look.
All in all a few details to think about but a great sail in any conditions. Do get the hull and deck carefully checked for damp, some are very dry others not so good. If wet don't buy, period.
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Swans are incredible.. but also look at Baltic Yachts... some of the guys left swan and got into custom and semi-custom.... Lovely boats as well... Beautiful vessels.....
I agree (well I would as a Baltic owner).

There is a lovely Baltic 42 (single cockpit) for sale in Rotterdam for €80k in case anyone is interested. In the magazine feature from 2009 I have about this boat she looks fabulously maintained. If I had had a crystal ball in 2011, I would have waited for this one... No affiliation BTW.


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Re: Swan 42/003, 1981, Ron Holland

It's a possible but very cheap in Euro for the type and size of boat. They had a lot of problems with balsa core decks etc. A serious survey of the fundamentals is vital. Cosmetic details can drive a price down and provide lots of sanity restoring work. Other problems are incredibly difficult and very expensive to correct.
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Old 25-02-2014, 03:10   #22
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Re: Swan 42/003, 1981, Ron Holland

A balsa cored boat - hull - deck - will be after 20 years+ of service a definite liability.
Glassfiber reinforced polyester resin is not watertight, finally the core becomes drenched with moisture anbd that the end on the strength side. A very costly operation could probably save the boat - or not. Delamination is the inevitable result. High quality build hulls like Swan, Baltic - tend to have lesser FRP traumas, but that's not a guarantee.
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