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Old 30-12-2011, 10:17   #16
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Only a little experience with a couple of 6'5" drafts.

Not for me.

HyLyte - can you get into Pelican Bay?
Yep. As a matter of fact, members of Charlotte Harbor Yacht Club cooperated in an effort to resurvey Pelican and its approaches after hurrican Charley moved things around a bit and have a sketch chart and waypoint schedule available that marks the deep draft channel, i.e. 6' (call them to obtain a copy). With any tide we have no difficuly. Frankly, however, given the proliferation of no-seeum and mosquitos, we avoid Pelican-save for the winter months-in favor of the anchorage at Useppa. There are other good anchorages in the Sound as well.

FWIW...
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Old 30-12-2011, 10:34   #17
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Swap the keel for the shoal, it's less than 10K get a deeper discount on the boat.

Agree on this. The two keels for this should bolt into the same hull footprint and bolt holes. The keel is iron so not THAT expensive, and should be able to purchase from beneteau and have swapped out.

If you had a place to store the deep draft keel it would make for a better offshore sailing boat should your plans change.
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Old 30-12-2011, 14:56   #18
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Yep. As a matter of fact, members of Charlotte Harbor Yacht Club cooperated in an effort to resurvey Pelican and its approaches after hurrican Charley moved things around a bit and have a sketch chart and waypoint schedule available that marks the deep draft channel, i.e. 6' (call them to obtain a copy). With any tide we have no difficuly. Frankly, however, given the proliferation of no-seeum and mosquitos, we avoid Pelican-save for the winter months-in favor of the anchorage at Useppa. There are other good anchorages in the Sound as well.

FWIW...

Thanks.

I thought Useppa chased you away? SW side?
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Old 30-12-2011, 17:23   #19
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Re: Survey surprise hurts FL plans

Did you try asking the broker for a token rebate due to his error?
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Old 30-12-2011, 18:48   #20
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Hi, didn't really read all the posts above, so, tell ya what I do:

If I expended any funds, travel or otherwise, based on the borker's repressentations, if it's not true, sue their asses for your loss!

Frankly, I'm sick of hearing discalimers, like we are ot responsible: They are responsible! They are experts in the field and have a greater knowledge of boats than the general public. If you rely on their representations and they turn out to be in error or false, they are responsible.....PERIOD!

Only disclosing defects or specifications made by the seller is no excuse, again, they are considered experts in the field and you can hold them fully responsible for what is advertised.

Point of basic business law, and in every state expert knowledge trumps omissions, errors and common knowledge. It's what you can reasonably rely upon while relying on such expertise.

Of more people would hold these lying SOBs to what they say and advertise, it would certainly clean up the business. Same with cars or any other consumer purchase.

If the boat does not meet your intended purpose AND you conveyed that purpose to the slaesman/broker, you're off the hook! Get alll your money back and seek indemnification for any expenses. Good luck....
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Agree on this. The two keels for this should bolt into the same hull footprint and bolt holes. The keel is iron so not THAT expensive, and should be able to purchase from beneteau and have swapped out.

If you had a place to store the deep draft keel it would make for a better offshore sailing boat should your plans change.
And you can try to get the broker to discount this cost... as it will come out of his commission.... and he owes you for his screw up....

But then again.. in real life not all behave properly....

Hope you have a great boat for the New Year.
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Old 30-12-2011, 19:54   #22
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Swap the keel for the shoal, it's less than 10K get a deeper discount on the boat.
This...........
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Old 30-12-2011, 20:02   #23
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Low ball your bid and keep the boat on the east coast! There is a stronger market for deep draft on the east coast of Florida rather than the west coast of Florida.
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Sorry to hear about the problem if it is a deal killer, The only advice I could offer is ask for the agent to reimburse you, there is also a possibility he has E&O insurance to cover his butt, That is errors and omissions insurance. Most insurance agents carry it, I do not know if boat dealers have a policy. I did carry it when I was in advertising.

If someone wants to push the issue they could come after us, or the advertiser for the difference. But there was never any money spent by a buyer to see if the advertised vehicle was the price the car dealer advertised it at. *Even if the dealer had a typo it put my company in the line of lawyer fire. You having to spend money he may have E&O Insurance, remember he is selling big ticket items, in the USA or not he deals with people with disposable income and people that can lawyer up and make his life hell. If it was the owners mistake he is be responsible and may reimburse you.

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*disclaimer. This post is not offered or intended to offend, harass, misrepresent the ethics of the above stated law profession.

Are you sure???? lets start the lawyer joke thread,,,,,

what is the difference between a dead lawyer and a dead dog in the street??????? the dog has skid marks were someone tried to stop from hitting him
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