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Old 08-01-2010, 16:31   #31
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Small weld zone...

With the small amount of stainless (3mm stainless onto 3mm plate) that I've had welded onto Boracay I found the heat affected zone was only an inch or so ether side of the weld.

A quick touch up with the relevant paint and no one would ever know...

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Old 11-01-2010, 00:48   #32
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Hi from germany, here in Germany and Netherland we ahve a lot of metal boats and i just purchased a 44 feet aluminium one form 1985. Some thoughts:
1) building a boat might need 4-6 years work
2) the hull is only 15-20 % of the investment and the work
3) most people go for aluminium below 50 feet because of the weight and easier maintenance
4) rethink resale value for a complete DIY boat
5) my boat has a professional built hull incl. engine and tanks but DIY internal which i would say it a better quality than many yards can deliver. cost in 1985 250.000 usd for material and 6000 working hours.
6) in the end you spent a lot of money and you will make a lot of faults which is normal if you built your first boat, house or car........

I strongly suggest you look in europe for a proven designed boat like van de stadt and you buy a used boat or a unfinish project, there are several.

I had the opportunity to get a van de stad 40 carribean in Alu , built partly in poland, 90% finished for 100.000 usd...... the boat was only 3 years old but i was too slow and somebody else bought the boat within a week.

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Most hombuilt steel boats here in BC are far better built than most commercially built ones, especially Fehr and Folkes boats . Here, commercially built,means those build with a thorough knowledge of how to skimp and minimise the material and work that goes in.
My boat was one month from the arrival of steel to launching.
In a metal boat, the metal work represents a lot bigger portion of the finished boat than a non metal boat, because the metal work includes a lot of detailing that you have to go out and buy for a non metal boat.
Boats like her often sell for up to 3 times what their owners have into them, whereas a commercially built boat re-sells for a fraction of what you pay for them.
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Old 11-01-2010, 18:51   #34
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In this size I do not think there is any difference in the aspects you listed. I do not like the designers you named because they made (too) many heavy designs. But there are other designers I like a lot (Koopman, Zaal, to name only two).

My friends have just crossed with the ARC in a Koopman's designed steel yacht (Momo). You can look up their results on ARC site. I think you will like what you will find there. Their comment was - "we set the twins in Las Palmas and took them down at Rodney Bay". I liked the boat a lot - strong, clean, no spot of rust in or out, lovely woodwork, excellent layout and, too my (relatively experienced) eye - completely trustworthy true ocean design. And fast.


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