Cruisers Forum
 


Join CruisersForum Today

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 18-12-2011, 14:56   #616
Registered User

Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Australia, Central Coast.
Boat: Boden 36 Triple chine long keel steel, named Nekeyah
Posts: 777
Re: Steel Boats and Welding

Maybe there was a typo and it was to be 14 tons - that would be closer for a heavily built steel yacht of that length. Ours is around that.
Regards,
Richard.
__________________

__________________
boden36 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18-12-2011, 15:44   #617
Registered User
 
xymotic's Avatar

Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,076
Re: Steel Boats and Welding

Quote:
Originally Posted by boden36 View Post
Maybe there was a typo and it was to be 14 tons - that would be closer for a heavily built steel yacht of that length. Ours is around that.
Regards,
Richard.
Yeah, that seems more like it. Thanks All!


Here's a picture of the previous owner before he took the boat apart for a refit (the cond I got her in)



The boat has a very colorful provenance, it used to be owned by Guy Williams who was the actor in the orig. Zorro tv show and also played the dad on Lost in Space.
His son has a tribute page to his father, and on it is an entire page devoted to memories sailing on the boat with his dad. So there are some pretty cool pictures of her The Oceana

I've emailed Guy Williams Jr. but haven't yet received a reply.
__________________

__________________
xymotic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18-12-2011, 18:09   #618
Registered User
 
S/V Alchemy's Avatar

Join Date: May 2008
Location: Toronto
Boat: Custom 41' Steel Pilothouse Cutter
Posts: 4,576
Re: Steel Boats and Welding

That could EASILY be 14 tonnes. Mine's 41 feet and is only 29,000 with diesel tanks full but no water or provisions. I should top out at 16 tonnes fully loaded.

Funny how plastic boats are in pounds or kilos, but metal boats are in tonnes!
__________________
S/V Alchemy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18-12-2011, 21:51   #619
Registered User
 
Yachts66's Avatar

Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: In the Jungle, on an Island near the beach
Boat: Roberts 45 Mariah's Child
Posts: 654
Images: 15
Re: Steel Boats and Welding

Get an audio gauge and it will tell you exactly how thick the plating is so you can compute an accurate weight. Good tool to have on a steel boat in any case.

Regards,

Thomas
__________________
We don't stop playing because we grow old, we grow old because we stop playing! Ben Franklin
Yachts66 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18-12-2011, 22:22   #620
Registered User
 
xymotic's Avatar

Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,076
Re: Steel Boats and Welding

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yachts66 View Post
Get an audio gauge and it will tell you exactly how thick the plating is so you can compute an accurate weight. Good tool to have on a steel boat in any case.

Regards,

Thomas
It's on a LOOONNNNNGGGGG list of stuff
__________________
xymotic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19-12-2011, 07:55   #621
Registered User
 
Yachts66's Avatar

Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: In the Jungle, on an Island near the beach
Boat: Roberts 45 Mariah's Child
Posts: 654
Images: 15
Re: Steel Boats and Welding

Look on line! I scored a really nice one for abut half what the local stores were asking!

Regards,

Thomas
__________________
We don't stop playing because we grow old, we grow old because we stop playing! Ben Franklin
Yachts66 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19-12-2011, 10:30   #622
Registered User
 
xymotic's Avatar

Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,076
Re: Steel Boats and Welding

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yachts66 View Post
Look on line! I scored a really nice one for abut half what the local stores were asking!

Regards,

Thomas
I work @ wm, everything is half off, so that's full retail

at the moment I need a plasma cutter and a better compressor (and a higher paying job)
__________________
xymotic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19-12-2011, 15:31   #623
Registered User
 
DutchTreat's Avatar

Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Muscote Bay, Ontario
Boat: 27' Vollenhovense Bol
Posts: 30
Images: 6
Re: Steel Boats and Welding

Quote:
Originally Posted by MacG View Post
There is nothing exotic about a steel yacht. Why should there? Yachts of steel are built in Holland since the use of iron, later steel in general boatbuilding.
All the major yachts have steel hulls/alu superstructures. Nothing new.
The Dutch and the Germans are the best steel builders in the industry and the former shipyard I worked with produced abt. 50 steel rivercruisers p. annum.
I am glad to hear that!
__________________
DutchTreat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19-12-2011, 17:05   #624
Registered User

Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Holland, France
Boat: 33ft sloop
Posts: 1,091
Images: 5
Re: Steel Boats and Welding

How a Vollenhovense Bol might end up in Ontario is of course another story ......
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	VB-1.jpg
Views:	99
Size:	66.7 KB
ID:	34915  
__________________
MacG is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19-12-2011, 17:19   #625
Registered User
 
DutchTreat's Avatar

Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Muscote Bay, Ontario
Boat: 27' Vollenhovense Bol
Posts: 30
Images: 6
Re: Steel Boats and Welding

Quote:
Originally Posted by MacG View Post
How a Vollenhovense Bol might end up in Ontario is of course another story ......
The people I bought her from were originally from Holland. They went over, bought her and had her shipped over.

I tell you for me it was love at first sight! I just wish there was more info in English on these boats.
__________________
DutchTreat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19-12-2011, 17:20   #626
Registered User

Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Holland, France
Boat: 33ft sloop
Posts: 1,091
Images: 5
Re: Steel Boats and Welding

This is a typical Dutch "Cruiser" destined for rivers and sheltered open waters, when weather allows it even for the IJsselmeer.
They are built of 5-4 mm steel 37 or 41 and come in a variety of interiors. It is one of the most popular designs in Holland and still make very good prices.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	MMS-1.jpg
Views:	75
Size:	58.0 KB
ID:	34919  
__________________
MacG is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19-12-2011, 17:40   #627
Registered User

Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Holland, France
Boat: 33ft sloop
Posts: 1,091
Images: 5
Re: Steel Boats and Welding

@ DutchTreat

In line with the expanding fishery on the IJsselmeer this type of sailingvessel was developed around the change of the millennium of 19th to 20th century.
The first shipyard that had built this type was the yard of the Kroeske Coy.
Originally it is a vessel developed for the purpose of fishing, later on developed into a real yacht with limited length. Very sought after, costly and for the afficionado' s of traditional yachts a "Dutch Treat".

Of course the general linesplan is much older. Go back to the 17th century and you will find many similar designs.
__________________
MacG is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19-12-2011, 18:05   #628
Registered User
 
S/V Alchemy's Avatar

Join Date: May 2008
Location: Toronto
Boat: Custom 41' Steel Pilothouse Cutter
Posts: 4,576
Re: Steel Boats and Welding

Quote:
Originally Posted by MacG View Post
How a Vollenhovense Bol might end up in Ontario is of course another story ......
Wow. That is the real deal. Leeboards and everything.

I would have to sail up to them and ask them about it. Unless they ran for shallow water, I'm pretty sure I could catch up...

Pretty boat, though.
__________________
S/V Alchemy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19-12-2011, 18:07   #629
Registered User
 
S/V Alchemy's Avatar

Join Date: May 2008
Location: Toronto
Boat: Custom 41' Steel Pilothouse Cutter
Posts: 4,576
Re: Steel Boats and Welding

Quote:
Originally Posted by MacG View Post
This is a typical Dutch "Cruiser" destined for rivers and sheltered open waters, when weather allows it even for the IJsselmeer.
They are built of 5-4 mm steel 37 or 41 and come in a variety of interiors. It is one of the most popular designs in Holland and still make very good prices.
God, it looks a bit like my pilothouse without the mast...

__________________
S/V Alchemy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19-12-2011, 18:11   #630
Registered User
 
DutchTreat's Avatar

Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Muscote Bay, Ontario
Boat: 27' Vollenhovense Bol
Posts: 30
Images: 6
Re: Steel Boats and Welding

Thanks MacG

I don't want to derail this thread so I hope I may PM you a question or two.
__________________

__________________
DutchTreat is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Opinions: Steel Boats ? Zach Monohull Sailboats 24 14-07-2010 15:36
Welding Stainless Through-Hulls to a Steel Hull Boracay Construction, Maintenance & Refit 30 20-06-2010 01:06
Questions About Steel Boats ssullivan Construction, Maintenance & Refit 118 27-10-2007 09:25
steel power boats. irwinsailor Construction, Maintenance & Refit 18 19-09-2005 08:39



Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 08:02.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.