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Old 08-04-2013, 23:52   #61
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Re: Staysail definition?

I thought this was supposed to be thread about staysails.
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Old 08-04-2013, 23:59   #62
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I thought this was supposed to be thread about staysails.
No, it was supposed to be a thread about what people generally refer to when they use the word "staysail". But it quickly devolved into what it is now. I'm sure the OP is overjoyed and all his confusion is completely cleared up. Great work guys.
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Old 09-04-2013, 00:41   #63
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Well, what they call a Yankee here is also a staysail so...
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Old 09-04-2013, 09:54   #64
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Re: Staysail definition?

I thought a yankee was a sail that flies way out on the pointy end????
Oh God, I'm so confused!!!!
If my rudder falls off what will I do???? (hide under my staysl!!!)
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Old 09-04-2013, 11:19   #65
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I thought a yankee was a sail that flies way out on the pointy end????
Over sized jib topsail..
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Old 09-04-2013, 12:24   #66
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Without topmast there's no 'yankee' IMO
Well, since I have a bald-headed schooner, what would I be callin' that high cut jib way out on the end of me bowsprit, if not a Yankee?
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Well, since I have a bald-headed schooner, what would I be callin' that high cut jib way out on the end of me bowsprit, if not a Yankee?
Just a jib when it's set up to the foremast, if there were three headsails they would be headsail, jib and flying jib. A jib topsail would be set above the jib(s), up to topmast if you had one and if it's large enough to overlap with the jib then it's a yankee. Both jib topsail and yankee are high cut, jib usually too but not allways.
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Re: Staysail definition?

If you look at Schooner - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia gallery pictures (scroll down some) The first one Atalanta is flying headsail, jib and jib topsail. Recouvrance below headsail, jib and yankee. Amhitrite headsail, jib and flying jib. On the right Spirit of Bermuda flies headsail and jib..
Closest to staysail is the fishermans staysail which really isn't a staysail at all (pictures 2,3,6 and 10)
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If you look at Schooner - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia gallery pictures (scroll down some) The first one Atalanta is flying headsail, jib and jib topsail. Recouvrance below headsail, jib and yankee. Amhitrite headsail, jib and flying jib. On the right Spirit of Bermuda flies headsail and jib..
Closest to staysail is the fishermans staysail which really isn't a staysail at all (pictures 2,3,6 and 10)
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I would argue that Atlanta is flying a flying jib rather then a jib topsail as the topsail should be close to the top of the forestay , in effect

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I would argue that Atlanta is flying a flying jib rather then a jib topsail as the topsail should be close to the top of the forestay , in effect

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Good points but consider the close location of jib stay on the sprit boom and the widening angle between these two sails upwards. In the case of jib and flying jib it's usually narrowing upwards. But as said earlier just my humble opinion.

Another matter thou is a reacher which in my memory was (a long time ago) more like the the sail nowadays called by some a yankee.. Any opinions?
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Good points but consider the close location of jib stay on the sprit boom and the widening angle between these two sails upwards. In the case of jib and flying jib it's usually narrowing upwards. But as said earlier just my humble opinion.

Another matter thou is a reacher which in my memory was (a long time ago) more like the the sail nowadays called by some a yankee.. Any opinions?
No, a yankee is a high aspect sail while a reacher is not; the shape is very different. But both can look like a jib or genoa upside down.
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No, a yankee is a high aspect sail while a reacher is not; the shape is very different. But both can look like a jib or genoa upside down.
Partly true but not what I was asking thou cant agree with theupsidedown part for the part of yankee which traditionally was allmost symmetrical. Thou the main point I'm making is the fact that a 'normal' jib in modern boat has the luff length allready as long as it could be on the stay. So the only way to increase sails area is to increase foot/depth and thus it goes to the direction toi resemle more a reacher not a yankee..
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