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Old 14-04-2015, 18:36   #1
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So, what's the catch with these boats?

Prices seem interesting -or interesting enough-, specs seem to wow and they surely look amazing. So what's the catch? Comments please...

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Old 14-04-2015, 18:50   #2
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Anyone who can afford those boats can afford professional advice.
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Old 14-04-2015, 18:54   #3
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Yes, but advice on CF is both free and much more self confident! Plus we're just window-shopping right now...
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Old 14-04-2015, 19:01   #4
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Re: So, what's the catch with these boats?

That size is above the practical cruising size. Once their owners have moved onto the next thing they lose a ton of value.

The cost to do anything on that size vessel will make you cry I suspect.

Also anything advertised as a racer is likely worn out. Anything advertised as custom is probably difficult to assess its provenance.

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Old 14-04-2015, 19:05   #5
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Re: So, what's the catch with these boats?

I'm just painting my bottom. Wish I had a 30 footer!
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Smell the scent of jealousy ...
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Old 15-04-2015, 00:41   #8
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I'm just painting my bottom. Wish I had a 30 footer!
By the end of the day, you'll wish it was 20 feet. LOL

I totally understand what you mean!
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Re: So, what's the catch with these boats?

There is no catch
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If you have the 10-15 milion USD to buy a boat- it means that you worth at least 200M

With this amount of money and the social circles that you belong are you going to buy a second hand boat? or rather a new one build to your specs?

So the market is not good for a 5-10M used boat- It means that the price should really go down. A Lot

No catch here
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Old 15-04-2015, 09:09   #10
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Prices seem interesting -or interesting enough-, specs seem to wow and they surely look amazing. So what's the catch? Comments please...

No catch, but in that price range it's always a buyer's market.

I'd guess it also has something to do with the overall economy, which went down for a few years.

If you're fortunate enough to be in that range, go for it. You're going to get a relatively good deal.
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Re: So, what's the catch with these boats?

I'm starting to get the impression that you are trying to make us all think you are something you are not. I doubt most people here on CF are falling for it, nor are they the type to be impressed so, please, save your breath....
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There is no catch
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If you have the 10-15 milion USD to buy a boat- it means that you worth at least 200M

With this amount of money and the social circles that you belong are you going to buy a second hand boat? or rather a new one build to your specs?

So the market is not good for a 5-10M used boat- It means that the price should really go down. A Lot

No catch here
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Re: So, what's the catch with these boats?

I would go for the Oyster every time, a beautiful boat, and my dream in a previous life
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leftbrainstuff - said like a true cruiser with little racing experience (though you may have racing experience). Yest, boats that have been raced extensively usually do have some more wear and tear than boats that haven't. That's true. Boats of the same age that haven't been raced have, by and large, left their berth in a marina a few hours a year. Very few have been really cruised extensively. "Bugs" have not been found. Rigging errors made by the dealer haven't been found and corrected. In the few years (22) that I cruised and delivered boats within the triangle bounded by Puerto Vallarta - Hawaii - Seattle I have noted that raceboats and ex-raceboats were usually better equipped with necessities and had fewer useless equipment, better maintained rigging and sailing equipment (like winches, etc.). Coincidentally, I found the same differences in the skippers that I've met - racers and ex-racers vs "never raced". I always felt safer delivering a raceboat or ex-raceboat. And it always took less work prepping the racer for a long passage.
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Re: So, what's the catch with these boats?

The catch is it's a small market for boats in that price range. Why do you suspect a "catch"?
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