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Old 01-08-2016, 17:40   #1
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Schooner ?

I saw this boat.. Is that just two rollerfurling genoa ? Anyone have comments on sailing something like that ? Work well ?

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Re: schooner ?

Certainly a novel rig. There may be a reason that rig hasn't taken the sailing world by storm. The complexity of having two masts just to fly a couple furling jibs seems like a most expensive solution to a problem which really doesn't exist. Get rid of one mast and install an in-mast roller furling main and you've cut way down on complexity and weight exactly where you don't need it. I'd pass on someone else's mistake.

One other thing, there are no "single masted" schooners. That should set off all the alarm bells when the current owner is that .......misinformed.....
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interesting rig.. 1st I saw like that..
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Re: schooner ?

Called a luna rig I believe.
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Re: schooner ?

Did ya notice there was no paper towels on the roll holder? And they want to sell the boat....maybe.....little round table's a space waster, too. Was this boat meant to go to sea?

Very weird boat with that centerboard, and no mainsail, sure hope the designer got everything in the best place or it would be .... thumbs down. The ad says "proven performer," how nice. I wonder how long ago 'twas "proven?"

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Re: Schooner ?

Clearly designed by someone who got fed up dealing with a mainsail. Not sure it will point too well, but I'd probably be up for giving it a try.
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This is kinda interesting:
http://forums.sailinganarchy.com/ind...howtopic=64740
for certain purposes, for certain folks, it may work very well...
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Re: Schooner ?

Someone posted another Carter boat recently. Since I had not heard of his boats I did a little kill time searching.

Seems he built some fast boats, and was first overall in the Fastnet in '65 and '69. And second to a new aluminum trimaran in '72 in a trans atlantic? race.

Also very influential in the rules during the beginning of IOR.

Noticed a couple of other unusual design features, too. Some boats had a hydraulic drive in the keel with the prop at the aft edge.

Another had a most unusual hull shape aft at the waterline and just below.

I'd post a pic but my boat is lying at a bad angle to the WiFi onshore and it's dropping out to much.
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Re: Schooner ?

Lol I have the Carter 35, it is a conventional rig but the Luna rig was an option.. If you go to the thread I have the original sales brochure and it shows the Luna rig..

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Re: Schooner ?

I really was trying to look at the rig but all I could see was "Engine Hours 10".
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Clearly designed by someone who got fed up dealing with a mainsail. Not sure it will point too well, but I'd probably be up for giving it a try.
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This is kinda interesting:
Carter Luna Rig - Cruising Anarchy - Sailing Anarchy Forums
for certain purposes, for certain folks, it may work very well...


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Re: Schooner ?

A schooner /ˈskuːnər/ is a type of sailing vessel with fore-and-aft sails on two or more masts,

Thus "2 masted" is noting it doesn't have more than 2. (even though 2 would be the most common)
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So according to wiki.. this isn't really a schooner . Not having fore and aft sails.

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So according to wiki.. this isn't really a schooner . Not having fore and aft sails.

Luna Rig.. I'm learning.. thanks to all..
A headsail is a fore and aft sail, as opposed to a square sail. In fact the difference between a fore and aft rig and a square rig is complex and more to do with the masting and rigging than the exact sails ie you can't convert a staysail schooner into a brigantine just by adding squares.

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Re: Schooner ?

They sail very well and are easier than two big boom footed sails.

Note a number of designs just did not get the balance well.

Otherwise best thing since sliced bread give or take having two masts rather than one ... in a small boat ...

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