Originally Posted by wheresthebrakes
sailcharleston, we are working hard to get some of these boats out of the water..
Check out the abandoned boats tab on
Sorry, but I disagree. (Rant ALERT!)
While the "waterkeepers.org" sure has a nice read, it doesn't help much to attempt INTIMIDATION/Extortion of folks in a bad way in a downturned economy.
I'm Glad Mark & John are still talking, I hope something fruitful comes of it, I KNOW Mark getting slapped w/$25k(or more) in JUDGMENTS won't help a thing, & the crane barge companies need work too...just like all the rest of us.
IF the "waterkeepers" were constructive, they'd already KNOW how to track down the owners (who're surely most local) call or go SEE them, and form a "task force" of volunteers/co-operating marinas/salvors in conjunction w/the vessel OWNERS to save EveryOne Money
, and actually GET SOMETHING DONE. It took the C-ton "waterkeeper" probably DAYS to put together that "linked" google
map w/so little info I don't know SQUAT AFTER looking at it, while a mask, snorkle & fins (& pen/paper) would be priceless w/more info. Documented vessels can be traced to the current
owner in 10 seconds. DNR/DOR/Tax Collectors Offices/State Registration
agencies can get You the name/address of Titled vessels almost as quickly. Once You have an established relationship w/these gov.org agencies...the info flows MUCH FASTER.
Getting the JOB DONE vs. pointing an accusing finger is (to me) like the difference between NIGHT & DAY. You accomplish NOTHING by slinging more mud on the wall.
Sounds like he has a "hardon" for some FLOATING Vessels as well, just because they don't meet his "standards" for "pretty".
How come the local LE/DNR/Waterway police aren't chasing down these owners (since that's PART of their JOB DESCRIPTION & WE as Tax Payers Write their Checks)?
Whining is 1 thing, DOING is another
(from a Nature Coast Conservancy active member
who's been DOING something on the w.coast of FL. re:this specific issue, for years).
Sorry for taking this thread completely OT (off topic) although it was already bending this direction anyway. It ticks me off when folks spend huge amounts of time WHINING vs. doing. No, You Don'T "cut 'em up" w/o PERMISSION, however talking to the owner, getting that permission (& possible FUNDING
vs. fines) then DOING carries far more weight. The true derelict vessels, w/a legitimate relationship supported by the DNR dealt w/can make for a win/win/win. Pulling Your pud on the www does zip.
Here's hoping that S/V DS doesn't get cut up, is raised & restored, & that the owner doesn't suffer $25k in state sanctions when DNR finally does get around to doing their JOB.
(Folks, fyi...crap like this doesn't happen on Most portions of our coastline here [excluding immediately after catastrophic storms] as folks just know better...the cops don't play and the costs go up exponentially, DAILY for lack of due diligence. IF you're working Your butt off trying to "git er up"...ok; not so much & they WILL BE KNOCKING ON YOUR DOOR).
Sorry for the rant (no I'm not);