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Old 17-09-2011, 16:25   #1
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Am looking at 5 same boats, basic hull and topsides all the same. All priced close together.
Question: What is the extras that are the most expensive to outfit a boat. In other words, all things being equal on the basics of these boats, what is the value of the extras? Is it Garmin gps, newer sails, nicer dinghy, cabin heater, extra anchors, better radio equipment?
How do I gauge the really expensive things to add to a boat that increases cost and value? What are the things that 'this boat comes with' that is an increased price value above other similar boats without it? Input please from those who know. Thanks!
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Sails would be the most expensive of what you mention. Other big items include rig type, gen, air.
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Re: Same boats

sails, windlass, radar are all pretty high cost. a cabin heater can be expensive, depending on what you need. A good RIB is too.
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Old 17-09-2011, 16:54   #4
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the autopilot can be a very expensive add on--i learned mine would have set me back over 20kusd, but it came with boat.
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If i were to buy a used boat, i would look at the sails and rigging. The newer the better as they are the most costly of things to replace/update out of what you have listed. The other things can be added later as the funds become available.
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New sails would be very expensive, several thousand. Second, dinghy which could also be several thousand.

Most of the other items you mention are optional.

Garmin GPS you can use a handheld that costs $200. Radios (except SSB or Ham) a couple hundred. Anchors, several hundred.

I would also ask the age and condition of the rigging. All new rigging would also cost a few thousand.

You didn't mention but most expensive of all could be new engine, depending on the boat and engine, but a new 50-60 HP diesel could be $10,000.
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the autopilot can be a very expensive add on--i learned mine would have set me back over 20kusd, but it came with boat.
What kind of autopilot is $20k?
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simrad hdl2000, installed on the quadrant and running runs around 20k .
and woulda been not bought had i been needing to find one on my own. this boat came with it already installed and functioning perfectly.
that amount o f money is more than i paid for the boat.
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simrad hdl2000, installed on the quadrant and running runs around 20k .
Hmmm?? does that include some some very high installation costs.
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Basic structural and labor intensive stuff costs more. If a boat has teak decks and they need replacing, that can cost 30-40K. Restoring brightwork...standing rigging...hull damage... plumbing or electrical work, those are the expensive things.

Look at engine hours and the overall condition of the engines. A new diesel in the 40 hp range is $15,000-20,000 (installed) although you can get a rebuilt engine for less.
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james s--i looked it up-- the machine alone was 15000 and installation requires wiring entire boat-- has parts in my master berth, in my dinette, in my quadrant--all over-- so 5 thousand for installation seems very high-- kind of like anything in san diego,,,,, i was using kali pricing for the install estimation-- found the total was interestingly anywhere from 18000 to 25000 usd-- makes me happy i have it already installed. is a good unit, so far.
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Sounds like ya got a good deal Zee. I've seen you post before about how good a unit it is and happy you are with it
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Sounds like ya got a good deal Zee. I've seen you post before about how good a unit it is and happy you are with it
i was very very fortunateto9 have bought this beeter boat from the guy i bought her from-- he was boat virgin over his head and couldnt handle her illnesses---but he did spend money on some righteous stuff before abandoning her. is awesome unit and does nicely in BIG winds and seas....this unit is reliable --so far-- and doesnt fail in the 60 and over kt winds north of cabo!! and uses so little electricity i can manage even with iffy electrical system....
makes a large difference in short handed and solo sailing.
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