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Old 11-08-2009, 09:06   #16
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it's pretty easy to level it off by moving around the boat. It was empty though last week, other than what was nailed down, and was listing to port.

My main worry was whether there was a section down there that was soaked or filled with water, but I don't believe there is.
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Old 11-08-2009, 15:38   #17
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Maybe it is just a design problem with the mold. I was talking with someone the other about our navy days and it came up that there was a destoryer that alwys had a list. Every new capitan said they could trim it, but couldn't. Is the boat really listing or is it per a gage that maybe isn't mounted level?
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Old 11-08-2009, 15:42   #18
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Someone already asked about the keel, but if it is a bolted on type are you sure it hasn't taken a hit? Are the keel bolts tight, has anyone drove down and looked at the keel to be sure it isn't hanging to the side?
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Old 11-08-2009, 16:06   #19
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An acquantence had a Chrysler 26 years ago, really liked it. Never heard anything about listing. It's hard to tell without sorting things out and filling tanks etc...
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How much does it really list? Is the waterline straight?

You could lay a plank across the gunwales and use a beam level to check.

Atach a weight to the main halyard and submerge it in a bucket of water at the mast step (to dampen movement) and check how far off it is at teh base. This could mean the mast is not straight however...

Which leads to an interesting point. If the mast is not straight the compounded moment arm of the weight aloft could easily list a light boat.

Measure equidistant from the forepeak fitting down each gunwale to the mast. Take the halyard and measure each side.

I would suspect the boat "taking" on water or soaking as a last resort type of scenario.

I would do all the checks at the dock with the boat completely unloaded.
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are you tied up to a fixed dock with docking lines tight? when tide receeds boat may hang effecting trim.
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... Atach a weight to the main halyard and submerge it in a bucket of water at the mast step (to dampen movement) and check how far off it is at the base. This could mean the mast is not straight however...

Which leads to an interesting point. If the mast is not straight the compounded moment arm of the weight aloft could easily list a light boat.

Measure equidistant from the forepeak fitting down each gunwale to the mast. Take the halyard and measure each side...
Brilliant! Sometimes it's just the simplest ideas that reasonate.
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I'm a little confused. How are you gauging the "listing"? Is the hull not level or is just the mast leaning to port? (Ex-Cal-did you mean straight as opposed to "bent" or straight as opposed to "plumb") It could be as simple as the standing rigging out of tune. The port shrouds might be tighter than the starboard shrouds pulling the mast to port. To expand on Ex-Cals advice, use either the main halyard or the topping lift as a measuring tape and measure from the mast head to a spot equidistant back from the pointy end on each side at the toerail. Use maybe a chainplate as a tick point. These distances (the hypotenuse) from the masthead should be equal. If they are not, loosen up all the shrouds and then start tightening again with the upper shrouds first. The masthead is the apex of the triangle. Tension is important! Too loose will create slop and the banging under load will transfer to the hull thru the chainplates. Too tight will create stress on the chainplate/hull joint with the excess constant pressure. Sail-loads are not constant and are calculated on rigging during design, but the combination of the two can be bad. Borrow a "loos" gauge or just talk to an old salt with a good ear and hand for rigging. It's not rocket science.
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A little bit of wind on the beam can cause a light sailboat to list, too. It's been pretty windy down there this past week. Be sure to check trim when it's calm :-)

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Easy to fix.Just buy 5 or 6 cases of beer and stow them on stbd.When it starts to list a bit ,buy some more!

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Which direction is the wind blowing?
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it's pretty easy to level it off by moving around the boat. It was empty though last week, other than what was nailed down, and was listing to port.

My main worry was whether there was a section down there that was soaked or filled with water, but I don't believe there is.
"Don't believe there is"? It's called a bilge, and you should be absolutely certain where yours is located and whether or not there is any water in it. You can begin by burrowing down through all of the interior access panels and find all of the spaces below where the inside of the outer hull is visible.
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Hopefully sailingcrane has taken all above into consideration...
then emptied the port tankage, stored 5 gallons water on outboard starboard side...and has gone sailing!
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This was another helpful thread for me.

Recently, I observed my boat listing about 3-5 degrees to starboard. I tried most of the advice posted here to be certain of what I was seeing. I simply placed a round object on several different horizontal surfaces and stood amidships (so that I wouldn't induce a list with my body weight) and it rolls to starboard every time. I removed nearly all sailing gear, the bilge was already empty, water tank is bow, amidships (empty).

I came to the conclusion that I have induced the list myself. There are 3 large, marine batteries on the starboard side. All of my tools and parts that I've been using are on the starboard side and the fuel tank is aft, starboard side (full).
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