S&S Swan 431 - a dream come true

[savoir]

They are pictures of old Swans. The aft decks in all of them follow the same basic shape with two cockpits and a bridge deck.

[deluxe68]

Originally Posted by savoir

They are pictures of old Swans. The aft decks in all of them follow the same basic shape with two cockpits and a bridge deck.

Every S&S Swan is just a little bit different as far as the companionway/bridge deck/winch layout. Some have winches that interfere with the mounting, that is why I asked specifically about the 431. I have looked thru the S&S forum and pictures so every 431, none of which has a large dodger. it looks like one picture is of a Ron Holland Swan, the lack of a coming/seatback behind the wheel is the giveaway.

[deluxe68]

We are headed back east in a few weeks to look at an Swan S&S 431 and a Ron Holland Swan 43. Has anyone sailed both of these boats? I would be interested in their handling differences.

[deluxe68]

Originally Posted by Suijin

I'm totally perplexed as to why a liner is considered an advance, other than cost considerations during manufacture. I'm continually frustrated when working on boats with liners in terms of the pitiful access they allow. Plexus, OTOH, seems to have it's merits but I have yet to see any problems with my glassed tabs after 27 years and some hard sailing.

ClassicSwan.org is a fascinating site. I do have to say I was only vaguely aware of the prices that older Swans command. It's pretty eye-popping when you see early 70's 40' boats for well over $100k...

The double companionways has always been a problem for me. One of my favorite all-time lookers, the Alden 44 has them. But every boat is a compromise...mine certainly has quite a few.

But, every time I see a Swan my heart quickens a bit. They are absolutely gorgeous machines and a joy to sail.

If you think 40 foot Swans are expensive check out the early 70's C&C custom boat prices on YachtWorld. There are a few over $200K and one nearly $400K.

[ihe2]

Some new sailing videos at Youtube of our Swan431 "CAID".

https://youtu.be/b2rJyhlyjAY

https://youtu.be/SdjKGaVxrwc

Cheers,

IHe