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Old 21-03-2014, 17:15   #1
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RIGGING FOR A 30 FOOTER

I just bought a Newport 30 MK II 1976 and the last owner said the starboard shroud is loose but the turnbuckle is all the way taken up.
any thoughts on what I need to do, or why the shroud is loose.
I don't remember seeing that when I looked at the boat.
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Old 21-03-2014, 17:20   #2
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Look closely at the chain plates.
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It could be a number of issues. Everything from the stay was made to long in the first place, the mast base could be in the wrong place, the chainplates may have deformed, the wrong angle on the spreader... And a few more.

There just isn't enough information here to help much.
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Old 21-03-2014, 23:14   #4
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I will measure and check the items you listed.
I think I read in the manual someplace that gives the dimensions for the rigging.
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Maybe you could take in the Port turnbuckle . Is the mast leaning a little to starboard . that is the first thing that I would check .
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It could be a number of issues. Everything from the stay was made to long in the first place, the mast base could be in the wrong place, the chainplates may have deformed, the wrong angle on the spreader... And a few more.

There just isn't enough information here to help much.
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Maybe you could take in the Port turnbuckle . Is the mast leaning a little to starboard . that is the first thing that I would check .
Definitely check your mast alignment first... As Mike and stumble said... Check everything else too... I'd personally be taking a very close look at mast tangs....

Losing a stick is not high on the "been there done that wish list"....
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Old 22-03-2014, 09:18   #7
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All great information and I will follow the least resistance path to solve the problem.

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All great information and I will follow the least resistance path to solve the problem.

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You bet Chip!

Always willing to help.... Don't be afraid to ask more details, or take and post pics if you need to....

Post a resolution when you have one!

PS: You never know if the PO (previous owner) or 1 before him replaced 1 shroud... Not common, but not unheard of... See if it looks the same vintage as the others.... Also, google norseman and staylock fittings... It would be a no brainer with these to shorten the shroud if it were cut long... My feeling is there is something else going on that has been mentioned though... so cutting should be a last resort after all has been quintuple checked...
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Good advice. I am an old carpenter, always remember my Dad saying, "Measure 3 times and cut once."
After this trip, I am sure there will be task you all can guide me through.
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The very first thing to do is take the main halyard and check the distance from the mast head to the top of the chainplates. The goal here is to measure the distance from the masthead to fixed locations. If anything is seriously wrong with the mast placement it should show up here first.
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Wow! I am really going to love this boat with all of you guiding me. Anyone live in the San Diego area?
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The very first thing to do is take the main halyard and check the distance from the mast head to the top of the chainplates. The goal here is to measure the distance from the masthead to fixed locations. If anything is seriously wrong with the mast placement it should show up here first.
To elaborate just a little in case you are very new to boating. Cleat off the halyard and swing it from the chainplate on one side to the chainplate on the otherside. If there is a difference then the top of the mast is over to one side or the other. There might be a little difference if the sheave on your halyard is on one side of the masthead or the other but you can look up to see that. Adjust your shrouds to take out the difference and that should straighten up your mast. Once you've done that for your upper shrouds then lay on your back and sight up the mast to see if there is a bend in your mast. Take out the bend by adjusting your lower shrouds.

A floppy shroud could also indicate a much more significant problem such as a weak or rotting compression post or compression beam or something gone wrong where the compression post meets the keel. Hope that's not the case. Check from under the cabin sole and all the way up the compression post and then the cabin top and then where the tabernacle fits the mast base.

Good luck in finding the problem.
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Wow! I am really going to love this boat with all of you guiding me. Anyone live in the San Diego area?
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I think you've got a great boat. I looked at one many years ago and just couldn't believe how much room the interior had compared to other 30 footers I'd seen.
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Re: RIGGING FOR A 30 FOOTER

I've written all the guidance down and will follow the steps.
I used to sail a lot when we lived in Florida. I got a small day sailed and taught our children. I was building a 43' Roberts beginning when the kids were small. Then got more involved in the Army Reserve and stored it. My last 2 years were back on Active Duty when my Son died and I couldn't bring myself to work on it when I retired.
So, this us getting us back in slowly. Getting to see the new technology available, like the fuel bladder on this boat. It is not stock and so far does not have a gauge to tell me how much fuel is in it.
Slowly but surely she will become her pristine self again.
Again, as always, thank you
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Wow! I am really going to love this boat with all of you guiding me. Anyone live in the San Diego area?
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There's a ton of guys there... a couple pretty active... You can do a search for members in SD.... Personally... I'm living in MS, but still have a boat in Marina del Rey... Gotta a bunch of folk to see when I visit CA.. I'll put ya down on the list of "see if I can" !

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