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Old 22-03-2014, 16:24   #16
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Re: RIGGING FOR A 30 FOOTER

G'Day Chip,

Checking that the mast is plumb is indeed your first task! But, if the chain plates are suspect at all, when you swing the halyard from side to side, measure to the toe rail instead of the chain plates.

Something to consider, though, is that if the mast was not plumb, both the cap shroud and the lowers would be slack. You report (I think) that only the cap shroud is wonky. This may indicate that the chain plate is faulty or that the cap shroud wire has slipped in the swaged terminal at either end, or that the shroud was indeed cut too long. If your memory is correct and the shroud has changed since your first viewing, the evidence points toward chain plate or swage failure. Either of those defects can get worse dramatically and rapidly, leading to dismasting, so fixing it should be a very high priority!

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PS Thinking about it a bit more, if the rigging screw is all the way closed this represents a growth of several inches in the length of the shroud., If it was due to chain plate failure, I would think that the plate would be visually "taller" than its counterpart on the other side. Is that the case? If not, then I'd be very suspicious of the swages. Careful inspection might show where the wire had started coming out of the terminal, so have a good look there (at both the top and bottom of the wire).
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Skpr john may have something. If the compression post is settling or the step then the shrouds will get loose. I would look at what that mast is sitting on first.


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Old 22-03-2014, 17:00   #18
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Skpr john may have something. If the compression post is settling or the step then the shrouds will get loose. I would look at what that mast is sitting on first.


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If the compression post or step was compromised, all the rig would go slack, not just one shroud, wouldn't it?

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Re: RIGGING FOR A 30 FOOTER

Be sure to check all the above, because you may have more than one thing wrong, so that (for instance) if the swage is failing, that doesn't mean the chainplate is okay, or the compression post or beam is okay, or the mast step, etc.
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Re: RIGGING FOR A 30 FOOTER

Check and make sure the cabin top where the mast sits is flat... not caved in.
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Old 22-03-2014, 21:06   #21
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That would be great. After the Vietnam war, I sailed with a family friend out of Marina del Rey. Perhaps I will have the boat ready and sail up that way?
I am looking forward to the Adventure and meeting you all on the water.
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Old 22-03-2014, 23:04   #22
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Re: RIGGING FOR A 30 FOOTER

i am new to sailing i also have a 30 ft newport i am in tacoma right now i am interested in any gear and any information we might share in common my name is Renn i am looking forward to your reply
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That would be great. After the Vietnam war, I sailed with a family friend out of Marina del Rey. Perhaps I will have the boat ready and sail up that way?
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Old 23-03-2014, 19:47   #24
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Re: RIGGING FOR A 30 FOOTER

i am trying to prepare for a cruise up to s e alaska i am concerned about my stays where they bolt through deck into the cabin i want to get a stainless steal backing plate on the bolt my question is is the through deck bolt long enough to handle the backing plate and still have enough threads to et a secure anchor and can this be done with the mast still standing on my newport 30
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I don't know. I saw one of the fittings continuing down a bulkhead with a strap through bolted to the bulkhead. I believe the others are done the same. I will check mine and the rigging when I get back to the boat.
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ok my terminology probably isn't right as i am new to sailboating but wires from the stays or shroud or something like that just go through the top of the cabin the main stays are through bolted straps like you say my concern is with the others
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I found the following helpful:
The Shrouds are on the side of the boat
Stays go fore and aft.
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Sorry about your son and the Bruce Roberts project. Hopefully getting back into sailing will help.
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Thank you, life goes on, and we must make the best of it. We've concluded that sharing the Adventure with family and friends is what really matters.
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