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Old 17-03-2007, 03:24   #1
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Radical new “Loop Keel”

Howes-Macnaghten Technology Ltd in the UK has patented a new keel design that is claimed to offer significant benefits in both speed and seaworthiness, with the added advantages of a kinder motion and greater comfort at sea.
Goto: Loop Keel - Overview
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Old 17-03-2007, 04:51   #2
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Interesting idea that might just go somewhere if...
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Old 17-03-2007, 07:48   #3
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Looks like a neat idea.

I wonder if they plan to offer this as some sort of retrofit. There's a hint of that (can't recall the phrase... it was more than two minutes ago that I read it) but I can't see how it could be done, without ripping the hull open.

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Old 17-03-2007, 07:59   #4
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Looks alot like a hydrofoil.
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Old 17-03-2007, 13:36   #5
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The Catamaran industry has been experimenting with foils between the sponsons. One for strenght and the other as a wing. The problem they've incountered is that kelp, sea grass and other debree gets caught up on the foils.

As for monohulls one would have to strenghten the upper part of the hull to support such a system. That in turn would most likely raise the COG (center of gravity) but on the otherhand strengthen the chainplate/rigging areas.

It looks cute though!

And I'm not too sure, how well, it would take a grounding................._/)
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Old 17-03-2007, 14:24   #6
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Looks and sounds a bit too good. I would really like to see some unbiased test results.
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Old 17-03-2007, 15:54   #7
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Wonder how many lobster pots you could catch in one pass? Kelp definitely would be a problem.
Hmmm! Don't think I'll get one.
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Not quite the same but the bilge keeler lot have been mucking around with asymetrical foils for ages (and getting good results it seems). l could also see "stuff" running down the swept back section of the loop and then getting caught on the bottom, unlike a straight keel where hopefully it falls off the bottom.
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Another negative is maybe the loading on the windward foil - as the yacht heels and lifts, the hydrodynamic forces get applied further and further aft on the keel section still under the water.

Having once owned a 15 foot wide 30 footer who'd rudder did the same (and which saw us snap tillers and even nearly rip the transown hung rudder off) I'd be interested to see if this aft moving CoE is actually good for the crew (they boast reduces broaching inclinations) or bad for the boat (ripping keel off).

Guess we'll see once on a real boat.

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Whats a keel?
What do you use it for?

Oh thats right, its the thing under the boat that keeps hitting things and makes you anchor out in the deep water where you can roll around all night.

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We played with a very similar set-up back in the early 80's. Found it worked damn well for cleaning the harbour of seaweed. Tried a few differing things with it but finally gave it away as the gains just were not there. It was actually slower at times and seemed to increase the pitching.

Maybe they have found something we didn't but it looks very very similar.
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What a way to "Collar a whale."And a new concept in "Diving to the depths".China is making a bid for the America's cup,maybe we will see it there,along with a photo of Alan Bond.Mudnut.
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Whats a keel?
What do you use it for?

Oh thats right, its the thing under the boat that keeps hitting things and makes you anchor out in the deep water where you can roll around all night.

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It's also good for turning the hull right side UP after a roll!!
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Not for me. I see many problems with Lobster pots on that design. Could add a fish net to it and have a great place to catch your dinner.
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Could be useful for a navy minesweeper to catch moored mines. Also if it inverted you could use it as a goal for water polo
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