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Old 21-02-2015, 05:53   #16
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Re: Pilothouse Boats -- Again

so let me add two more boats that could match your visions:
Sirius-Werft Plön | 40 DS | Philosophie, unluckily only 40"
Knierim Yachtbau - FREYA - Knierim 60 DS
both yards are near Kiel Canal and all yachts are custom built.
For classic design / one off etc. Yachtdesign Georg Nissen
even near Kiel located.
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Dockie.. As you frequent the Baltic a lot, it would be worth your while sidetripping to Poland. It was DoubleWhiskey who turned me onto the quality of Boatbuilders in the country. I have been truly amazed at the quality of design and finish from several yards. Nothing is too much trouble and the price is in the "reasonable" range.

You could have your very own, one off DOCKHEAD 60.

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So, in a phone call to Haber, they will design you any size you want.
This is a 34 footer. As much room as I would need, Tiller and wheelhouse control. Two huge private cabins fore and aft.

Good boat........ but if you want sleek and sexy, this aint the boat for you. Its solid and sexy.....
Well. . .

Sleeker than that, anyway . . .

Looks like a good concept, though.
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Im just waiting for to swallow hard and join the Cat Club....... I gave in a long time ago.......

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If you live aboard permanently a pilothouse is great for light, space etc. We wouldn't be without it. But we don't have a pilothouse helm and don't need it because we have a hard dodger, making our cockpit ideal for ocean passages. Even the off watch sleeps there on a day bed. When we bought the boat we never realized just how good a setup this was.
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Dockie.. As you frequent the Baltic a lot, it would be worth your while sidetripping to Poland. It was DoubleWhiskey who turned me onto the quality of Boatbuilders in the country. I have been truly amazed at the quality of design and finish from several yards. Nothing is too much trouble and the price is in the "reasonable" range.

You could have your very own, one off DOCKHEAD 60.

Thanks; hot tip!

I'm actually hoping to spend some time in Polish waters this summer.
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If you live aboard permanently a pilothouse is great for light, space etc. We wouldn't be without it. But we don't have a pilothouse helm and don't need it because we have a hard dodger, making our cockpit ideal for ocean passages. Even the off watch sleeps there on a day bed. When we bought the boat we never realized just how good a setup this was.
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Interesting concept - can you post some photos?
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Im just waiting for to swallow hard and join the Cat Club....... I gave in a long time ago.......

It's possible, thanks to Chris White. Just where can I see one?
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So, in a phone call to Haber, they will design you any size you want.
This is a 34 footer. As much room as I would need, Tiller and wheelhouse control. Two huge private cabins fore and aft.

Good boat........ but if you want sleek and sexy, this aint the boat for you. Its solid and sexy.....
Agreed... If a boat had "child bearing hips" This is her...


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I would suggest that you don't need a full helm inside. Remote engine controls a la mathers micro commander (this is what Chris White boats use) and a good AP control head are sufficient. But would also submit that there is a lot more to choosing between a cat and a a mono than whether a particular example has a pilothouse.
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I would suggest that you don't need a full helm inside. Remote engine controls a la mathers micro commander (this is what Chris White boats use) and a good AP control head are sufficient.
Exactly as Wauquiez PS too...
Would prefer a helm though... Just me...
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Looking at boats is always fun.

A few questions answered in the beginning will help narrow a search quickly:

1. What range of "asking prices" is one seriously considering? (The Budget)

2. Does one want only a new boat? Or, will a used boat satisfy? (The Age: New or Used)

3. Is one open to the hull material used, or does one have a preference or requirement?
(The Hull Material)

(Aluminum, Fiberglass, Steel, Wood, Composite)

4. Are "homebuilts" out of the question? (The Builder)
Some pilothouse boats are made by famous yards, some are made in someone's back yard. Is one open to either or only to famous brands?
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Size alone (LOA) is not enough to know, in my opinion, because I have come across relatively large boats (over 40 feet LOA) that are made of Steel, Fiberglass, Aluminum, Wood, Composite (cold-moulded), and Ferro-Cement.

And I have come across some relatively large boats that are "home-built" (often a Bruce Roberts design) and others that are made by professional boat yards.
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How about a Columbia 45 motorsailer? I know where's the one that has been completely refit with new rigging, new sails, new roller furler, new wiring and plumbing, new hull paint and topside paint. Keel bolts redone. All new ports. Has a good 50 hp Perkins. Huge interior needs to be redone. This was a restoration project that finished all exterior and seaworthiness items, but illness ended the dream. If anyone is interested contact me directly. (I have no financial interest; juts helping a friend.)
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It's possible, thanks to Chris White. Just where can I see one?
Might be worth a trip to Chile. It's summer down there now.

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