First post but I have been lurking for some time and signed up recently as I get closer to pulling the trigger.
So here is the basic plan and keep in mind I could stop at any one of three phases and of course plans can change, they always do.
The basic plan is this;
Phase one - a boat to teach and weekend/long bay/coastal cruise
on with 2 to 4 adults, some teens at times. Keep a few years and sell. Think 32 to 40 feet.
Phase two - a larger boat that is the learning
curve to longer cruising and going more offshore
at sensible times. Think 40 to 49 feet.
Phase three - This is the end game
boat, large enough for 6 to cross in and yet can be handled by 2. Think 48 to 58 feet.
Now on to the PHASE ONE boat -
In the next one to three months I plan to purchase
an older classic plastic sailboat. This is a boat for cruising the Chesapeake, coast, the ditch, with perhaps Florida
and some of the closer islands an option but think more the bay, the rivers and creeks. I'll be having my teens and others on board so I will have a crew of new sailors
so comfort below decks, at anchor
are far more important than pointing. Even if it were just me, I'd rather have the comforts when stopped then a fast, high pointing boat. The goal is a purchase price
below $20K. I love working on boats as much or more than sailing them, it is how I grew up. My son and I are about to begin building a CLC Passagemaker dingy (waiting on delivery) and it is not my first rodeo. Really excited about the build!
Phase one boat requirements as follows;
1 - Purchase price
2 - Shoal draft
- 5' ish and under. Centerboards okay, wing keels not, I'll already have anchors on board.
3 - Large cabin
space with privacy for a couple from guests.
4 - Diesel
5 - Wide decks.
After years of boating
in sail and power from 8 to 72 feet, I have a good idea of what I do and equally do not want, so here is my don't list too;
No, wing keels, wood hulls, deep draft
fin keels, gas engines, narrow beam, I am sure there is more...
My take is a 20 to 50 year old production sailboat at this time is pretty much going to be about the same based on her upkeep and not the original build. Design of course matters a lot! A project
boat is going to be the same wether it be an Irwin
etc..., a boat needing TLC will also be the same.
Here is my current
short list - based on price, draft, cabin
space and a few other features.
32.5 - the shortest of the list but the center cockpit
(I am a CC fan) shoal draft, queen berth aft, easy to sail. Every owner I speak to says the same, not the prettiest girl at the dance but very comfortable, a decent sailor and pretty reliable. I have found several and they past the mallet test and a number of other quick inspection
C37 - These really run wide - from major projects for free to overpriced in decent shape. Not my first choice as they are a bit tender
but still in the running. The free one has mold
and would most likely need a gutting so it is off the list, there are some sub $20Kout there that are possible winners with TLC.
Irwin 37 - There are several and a MKI that while not my fist choice is also free but the interior
is like hoarders buried alive! The topsides are good and the interior
is pretty dry, mechanical, some rigging
, aft cabin refit
and other work is required but less than 100 hours to splash. There are some MKIII's out there too and they are on my watch list.
35 - I know all about "leaky tiki" and rehab recore do not sacre me, been there, done that. The cabin is okay, the beam helps make up for the lack of privacy. They are workable.
Young Sun 35 - Same as the Formosa
40 - While no where near as much cabin as the shorter boats, it is close and workable. Great sailing boat and shoal draft thanks to her centerboard
Boats I have looked at and are now off my list - Columbia
40, Tartan 34C.
I am okay with a boat that needs deck
a bit, needs cosmetic work, chain plates, rigging
, even an engine rebuild
(been there done that too), complete electrical
(AC and DC), and all of the normal things that wear out.
Keeping in mind that over time this boat will be upgraded and improved while owning it and then sell it for what the market bears is OK. It is a process and learning
vehicle. Teaching others to sail and cruise
is more than what you do underway, it's also what you do when you aren't.
Ok now I'd like other suggestions on boats. I am willing to travel as far as MA and down to SC to bring her home. Shipping
by land is possible too, I have a good marina nearby where she can sit on the hard
a few months before I splash her and DIY is good.
Last - Given the economy and having CASH in hand at the dock
should be a good bargaining chip. I have seen some amazing boats go cheap
, like 35 cents on the dollar in places. A local Bendy First 38 went for 15K! So don't be insulted when I offer 8K on a 24K asking price with a boat needing 30K in work and list is 35K to 40K. Someone else will take my cash. I would love to hear what folks have paid recently and if you are worried - PM me, I won't share.