Thank you for the feedback, all. I've added the Oyster
48, Kaufman, and Saga on my list of boats to crawl around and look at.
We actually looked at the Norseman when we were in LA (we have driven 4500 miles in the last month driving up and down the west coast
looking at boats) but we have decided that we don't want the can of worms that comes with a teak deck
, and I believe the Norsemans aren't glass underneath either.
Good friends of ours cruised and lived aboard a Hylas
47 for years and loved it. Beautiful boat and she sailed well. The 44 we looked at in San Diego
was in wonderful condition and had she not felt so small inside (plus a couple of other things) we probably would have made an offer on her. I have read since then that they are fairly wet upwind.
We also cruised with a couple on a Liberty 458 and I remember the first time I went down below, I was extremely impressed with the layout and interior
. The freeboard is a bit high for my taste, but not at all a dealbreaker. There were a couple on the market - one sold and the other looks very tired.
At the boat show
, we crawled around on some newer Hanses. Within our price
range though, I don't think we will be able to accomplish most of our "wants".
We looked at a Moody 42 and a Moody 47, but the first one already had an offer and the particular 47 we were on just wasn't the right boat for us (and had teak
decks). Based on the Moody's I've been on, I really think Bill Dixon got the layouts right with his size constraints. And the later models 2000'ish have lovely joinery.
After just 6 months of cruising, we knew that we could do this for the long term. So now we hope to do it with a kid in the future. And now we both have very specific ideas of what would fit our preferences. Of course, realistically, everyone looking for their "perfect" boat that checks all their wants end up having to compromise somewhere if they are shopping
to a budget
The reality of cruising, is that you really can do it on just about anything, it just matters how much discomfort and risk you are willing to take on. You wouldn't believe some of the boats we saw in remote
places, that had sailed 10's of thousands of miles to get there...boats that I wouldn't have even cruised locally. But people do it all the time. I just want to be comfortable. Before I went cruising, I made a lot of my boat decisions based on how things would be when we were underway. My big lesson was that crusing is 95% at anchor
and 5% underway so for the next boat I will definitely be paying attention to creature comforts more. Here are a few of our wants:
- Decent light air performance
- Newer than 1980
- A non-Vberth stateroom
- Space for a washer install (will be living on the boat on land for 5 years and the thought of hauling an infant + laundry every other day is one I would like to avoid)
- No teak decks
- Ample freezer for pre-food prep on long passages
- A solent stay (although we will put this on any boat that we can fit it)
- A cockpit that can be fully enclosable
- A separate shower
- No centerboards or shoal drafts
Of course bearing in mind, my husband's "list" is a little bit different than mine. He would love to have a below-deck windlass
and a forward sail locker.