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Old 22-06-2011, 05:20   #16
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Interesting. Thanks goboatingnow.
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Old 22-06-2011, 08:41   #17
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why worry? The tactic is to pull up the board in a storm and slide down the waves so your keel doesn't trip the boat.
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why worry? The tactic is to pull up the board in a storm and slide down the waves so your keel doesn't trip the boat.
Unfortunately that tactic won't work on a monohull. I know this from experience in biscay on a lift keeler. With the keel up the boat is unsailable due to excessive weather helm from the centre of effort moving aft. Even under bare poles streaming warps the boat would dip it's gunwales under and start to trip. The safest configuration was full keel down warps out and rudder to leeward. Pulling the keel up and hoping to slide sideways almost cost us our lives.
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Old 22-06-2011, 09:43   #19
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so much for reported accounts by Ovni owners then =(
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I would have thought the same. To remove the fin would seriously hamper the boat I would have thought. I've not heard the one or two Onvi owners that i know mention that technique.

I've no gripe with Onvis , just that I never understood the reluctance to release figured. A reported STIX of 30 is very low and below many supposed " Coastal Cruisers" I wonder if Onvi infatuation by their owners leads them to overlook the obvious. a bit the same way people buy range rovers and think they have bought a more rugged vehicle then an average car ( which or couse it isn't )

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Old 22-06-2011, 16:14   #21
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Re: Ovni AVS?

goboatingnow, any figures on the Garicia Maracuja which has a similar lifting keel and ballast seup. Also, the Boreal but from what I read it sounds like their ballast is done a bit different.
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Old 22-06-2011, 16:25   #22
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Garcia Maracuja - wow...theres one i've never heard before. And looking at those prices!
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Garcia Maracuja - wow...theres one i've never heard before. And looking at those prices!
Price-wise about like a similar size Ovni (I'll need a big, big stock market rally ). I've only seen one and it was on the hard in Deltaville. I like them! Especially the open interior.
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They are beautiful the ones on YW. Interiors well thought out.
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They are beautiful the ones on YW. Interiors well thought out.
Here's the boat Salty, especially for cold places ...Integral 43 - Integral 12.50 - voilier de grande croisire

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omgomgomg this is sooo amaizzzzing!!!!!!! Doodles u r torturing me and my desires!!
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LOL ... I'm just here to serve.
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Re: Ovni AVS?

Hi,
One year later this post, I come to give my "little" advice.
I am a french sailor and recently bought an Ovni 365.
last year, I hired this boat for a 3 weeks test trip and this made me sure that it was THE boat I need as I will go both in Artic and Antartic areas.
Just to remind one very important thing about AVS.
The first point is the ship owner, not the ship herself. How will be his behavior in a really bad weather condition?
The second point is that capsizing is never due to the wind force but to the waves force. And with a centerboard up, you have really less chance to capsize in such condition.
Now, what happens if you are capsizing? Your ship will be in an unstable position, exactly in the same way as a non centerboard ship due to the balasts in the hull. And she will recover in the same way as the kill is just 150 kg so quite null regarding the 3.5 tons of the balast.

It was just an advice. Sorry for my english, I work for an US company since a while but this is not enough to be so fluent...

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I am not trolling or wanting to be overly critical of the Ovni design which I quite like BUT am AVS of 105 attracted severe criticism when it was found that one of the yachts in the Sydney to Hobart disaster was so affected. I guess it just means an Ovni is not suitable as an offshore racer.
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Old 23-06-2011, 05:44   #30
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Do you ever know how much Ovni are actually sailing across the world?
One of them just arrived few days ago in Eastern Island after a large trip in Patagonia, another one is actually in route for the North West passage, arriving in Greenland 8 days ago.
Try to find one, only one vessel type with as many miles as these made by Ovni's in the world with quite NO issue and you will understand that this is one of the most suitable for an offshore boat. Certainly not a racer as permormances are not the most important for Ovni, but security and safety is.
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