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20-10-2015, 14:59
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2015
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Opinions On This Boat Please
This boat was all hand made in New Orleans in 1969. This boat was given to me and was trying to get some opinions if it is worth putting money into. Purpose of this boat would be to ocean race. Is that what this boat was made to do? Seems to be a vary solid boat. Boat wieghs about 12,000 lbs LOA 37 LWL 27 draft 6ft dagger up. I know the disgne was based of off an herreshoff boat. The fiberglass was laid by a new technique designed by a place on the wolf river. Any opinions or questions are welcome. Thanks
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21-10-2015, 04:20
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#2
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Senior Cruiser
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Thunder Bay, Ontario - 48-29N x 89-20W
Boat: (Cruiser Living On Dirt)
Posts: 49,143
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Re: OPINIONS ON THIS BOAT PLEASE
Greetings and welcome aboard the CF, Seanconnell.
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21-10-2015, 04:27
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Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Fort Lauderdale, FL
Boat: 48 Wauquiez Pilot Saloon
Posts: 5,975
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Re: OPINIONS ON THIS BOAT PLEASE
Welcome to CF Sean !
It all depends on how much money you want to put in it...
PS Try to take the CAPS lock off...
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21-10-2015, 04:33
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Senior Cruiser
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: gettin naughty on the beach in cornwall
Boat: 63 custom alloy sloop,macwester26,prout snowgoose 37 elite catamaran!
Posts: 10,594
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Re: OPINIONS ON THIS BOAT PLEASE
don't walk.............RUN!!!!!!!
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21-10-2015, 04:34
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#5
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 726
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Re: OPINIONS ON THIS BOAT PLEASE
The answer to your question is no, but I assume you figured that out already.
Doesn't mean you shouldn't tidy it up and enjoy it though .....
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21-10-2015, 08:26
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#6
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Kingston Ont Canada
Boat: Looking for my next boat!
Posts: 3,101
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Re: OPINIONS ON THIS BOAT PLEASE
Give it neck!
Looks like a shark on viagra.
I estimate its value at $100.
The cost to restore to safe sailing condition greatly exceeds its value when complete. Especially when there are turnkey older boats available for next to nothing.
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21-10-2015, 08:37
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#7
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2015
Boat: Land bound, previously Morgan 462
Posts: 1,991
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Re: OPINIONS ON THIS BOAT PLEASE
If you intend to keep the boat for ocean sailing, pay for a survey by an experienced marine surveyor. Listen to all he says about the suitability of the boat for the ocean, if that is your intent. The interior appears unfinished. Unless you have some experience with woodworking and especially cabinet making and want to make a career out of it, finishing the interior could be a problem. But if you already have sails and rigging in place and just want to kick around the harbor or inland waters, go sailing and have some fun!
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21-10-2015, 08:42
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: In transit ( Texas to wherever the wind blows us)
Boat: Pacific Seacraft a Crealock 34
Posts: 4,115
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Re: OPINIONS ON THIS BOAT PLEASE
Pretty cool design. Was her bulkheads removed? Do you have her original plans? What is your background as far as carpentry and mechanical talents?
Sometimes free boats are awesome and sometimes they can be a curse. This is mainly due to the amount of work blood sweat and tears that it may require. And ask yourself, if you coukd restore her, is she sellable? Could you recoup some of your investment?
Anyways, good luck, hope it works our well for you.
Erika
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21-10-2015, 09:11
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#9
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Bend, OR
Boat: Brewer designed Pacific 43 in fiberglass. Center cockpit set up for long-distance single handing.
Posts: 472
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Re: OPINIONS ON THIS BOAT PLEASE
You write: "the purpose of the boat is to ocean race." This is no longer a competitive design unless there is a fleet of them in your area. If you can do all the work yourself and keep your costs to a minimum, you should have a great experience, and a fun boat in the end.
Remember, free boats are the most expensive kind.
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21-10-2015, 09:29
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Bellingham, WA
Boat: Bruce Roberts 44' Steel Mauritius
Posts: 919
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Re: OPINIONS ON THIS BOAT PLEASE
Any project like this is a labor of love. Figure it will take you seven times as much money and time as you estimate. Invest in a survey first. It takes a certain type of person with a lot of patience to do this sort of thing but I enjoy it.
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21-10-2015, 10:56
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Oregon
Posts: 209
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Re: OPINIONS ON THIS BOAT PLEASE
I have a friend that has one that looks a lot like that. He did say that it was a real close to the water experience. He also said it was a wet boat, because the sides were so low that he sailed it with the rail in the water. Mac
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21-10-2015, 13:01
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#12
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 5
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Re: OPINIONS ON THIS BOAT PLEASE
Thank you everybody for your replies. Much appreciated. I do have a good bit of boat building experiance but was just really confused about the design of the boat. The boat looks to be built better than most boats Ive worked on. It has just been neglected for way to long. Im thinking if boat was restored it would be a vary strong/wet boat for the ocean. Fiberglass is over and inch thick and a pretty big keel for the size of the boat. Boat has a total of nine bulk heads all inch thick mahogany. 4 of them which are true bulk heads glassed in 360 degrees to the inside of the boat. Boat also has 6 massive fiberglass stringers from bow to stern. I had to remove three bulk heads due to rot but replacing bulk heads is no big deal in this boat since it is striped out. Don't really plane on putting much inside the boat but a couple of bunks to sleep in. The bottom of this boat is vary flat and looks fast. Boat has a huge rig and lots of draft. Any boat builders out there that have and comments on the design of this boat and possible performance??????? Has anybody heard of people incapsulating a keel in stainless steel? the out part of this keel is all stainless and not sure if the entire keel is or not. Thanks for the help everybody. This is just a weird boat and trying to get the communities input.
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21-10-2015, 15:40
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#13
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Alert Bay, Vancouver Island
Boat: 35ft classic ketch/yawl.
Posts: 1,980
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Re: OPINIONS ON THIS BOAT PLEASE
As a classic racer she could be great. Won't be competitive against modern boats but I be she will sail brilliantly. The good thing about classic racing is it is about the sailing not how deep you pockets are to get the latest nano something carbon sails etc
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21-10-2015, 15:48
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#14
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Careel Bay Pittwater
Boat: Custome Open BOC 50' cutter rig
Posts: 365
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Re: OPINIONS ON THIS BOAT PLEASE
Quote:
Originally Posted by seanconnell5
THIS BOAT WAS ALL HAND MADE IN NEW ORLEANS IN 1969. THIS BOAT WAS GIVEN TO ME AND WAS TRYING TO GET SOME OPINIONS IF IT IS WORTH PUTTING MONEY INTO. PURPOSE OF THIS BOAT WOULD BE TO OCEAN RACE. IS THAT WHAT THIS BOAT WAS MADE TO DO? SEEMS TO BE A VARY SOLID BOAT. BOAT WIEGHS ABOUT 12,000 LBS LOA 37 LWL 27 DRAFT 6FT DAGGER UP. I KNOW THE DISGNE WAS BASED OF OFF AN HERRESHOFF BOAT. THE FIBERGLASS WAS LAID BY A NEW TECHNIQUE DESIGNED BY A PLACE ON THE WOLF RIVER. ANY OPINIONS OR QUESTIONS ARE WELCOME. THANKS
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From your post - It seems possibly you never sailed much as your questions seem to reflect. If you invest in making seaworthy, you will also need ocean category safety gear to comply with race rules of any club.The boat has plesent hull lines nice starter boat in Ocean racing it should be Sunday over night fun doesn’t expect to win, but then you will learn a lot. This experience will set you up for the next boat you may or may not want to purchase. Good luck.
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21-10-2015, 16:17
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#15
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Marina del Rey, California
Boat: President 43 Sportfish
Posts: 4,105
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Re: OPINIONS ON THIS BOAT PLEASE
Quote:
Originally Posted by atoll
don't walk.............RUN!!!!!!!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by olaf hart
The answer to your question is no...
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hamburking
...I estimate its value at $100.
The cost to restore to safe sailing condition greatly exceeds its value when complete...
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These sum it up pretty well.
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