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Old 29-03-2016, 07:56   #1
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Opinion on a few mid 30' boats

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I'm looking for our next boat, something in the mid 30's to max of 40'. Purpose is coastal cruising, hopefully head down Mexico way next fall. Two handed sailing, wife and I. Budget mid 40's.

Yesterday I saw a Morgan 383 that was well cared for, from what I've read it seems to be a good choice.

There is a CS36 (Canadian Sailcraft) I'm going to see today, again seems well suited for the job and has a good reputation.

Thoughts on these first two boats as they are at the top of my list?

Saw a Cal 39 that was also well cared for but needed the entire head/plumbing/holding redone. Other than that a nice boat.

Years ago I owned an Islander Freeport 38, same as the 36 but with a bowsprit. Great boat, only issue is most have a pathfinder diesel and I don't care for those but it's not a deal breaker.

Any general thoughts on buying in my parameters welcome and encouraged.

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Old 29-03-2016, 12:00   #2
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Re: Opinion on a few mid 30' boats

I'd suggest Irwin 38-2

This one specifically

https://keys.craigslist.org/bod/5493463760.html

I know the guy, nice boat period. He's little more motivated now as he's dropped the price from $47.5 to $39.9

I'm wanting trawler nowadays though a certain ericson 36 cruiser has my eye...
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Re: Opinion on a few mid 30' boats

I vote the Morgan, long fin, reasonable draft, skeg hung rudder, great reputation. What more could you want? :>)
The others in order of preference:
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Re: Opinion on a few mid 30' boats

CS 36 is one of the better ones out there if it has been looked after but they don't give a nice one away. Niagara 35 and Pretorian 35 pretty much finish my list for real good around sailboats that can safely be taken offshore.,
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Do some shopping in Canada as our dollar has really tanked since the price of oil went down, might find a great deal and it's easy peasy to import/export between the countries. R
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Re: Opinion on a few mid 30' boats

Where do you plan on buying? Texas or California? Or are you willing to look farther afield? If I could find one, the 35 I'd love to get is the Hinckley Pilot Sloop. They are not common and may be over the budget. But maybe let us know more about your personal preferences and where you are going (which side of Mexico).
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Re: Opinion on a few mid 30' boats

Plan on buying on the west coast but considering the Canadian dollar anything is possible.

The CS36 I looked at today was very well cared for. It is tied for top of the list with a well cared for Morgan 383.
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Re: Opinion on a few mid 30' boats

My own preference would be Morgan from the design characteristics (molded in keel and skeg-hung rudder) but full disclosure I have not stepped on either one. If you really like the Cal you might consider going to a composting head, I don't have one but those that do seem to like them. Does the Morgan have the Perkins 4108 in good shape? That's a plus.
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I've owned a CS36T years ago and sailed it offshore as well as some coastal cruising. I did a lot of homework back then and nothing has really changed since then. The CS has a partial skeg rudder which in many ways is the best of both worlds. It's a stick built boat constructed to a very high standard and is longer than 36 feet. I'd buy one again if I was looking into that size of boat, excellent choice.
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Is it an original CS 36 "Traditional", or the later CS 36 "Merlin"?
CS 36 MERLIN sailboat specifications and details on sailboatdata.com
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CS 36T - CS West

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Re: Opinion on a few mid 30' boats

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Plan on buying on the west coast but considering the Canadian dollar anything is possible.

The CS36 I looked at today was very well cared for. It is tied for top of the list with a well cared for Morgan 383.
The 36 traditional is the better boat. Sailed the other one which name escapes me at the moment across Atlantic. boat oil canned the whole way and impossible to balance. Keel had been mounted crooked! Other one is a Merlin. Sail a Heritage 35 now good boats if you can find one.
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I grew up in Ontario, Canada and the CS36 Traditional was on my short list together with an Aloha 34, shoal draft. I picked the Aloha for better livability. I am 6'2" and all berths are 6'4" as is the standing headroom throughout. Perfectly balanced helm, I have sailed her offshore and lived comfortably aboard for 2 years at a time. Very sea kindly, Ted Brewer design. Definitely in your price range.
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I'd suggest Irwin 38-2

This one specifically

https://keys.craigslist.org/bod/5493463760.html

I know the guy, nice boat period. He's little more motivated now as he's dropped the price from $47.5 to $39.9

I'm wanting trawler nowadays though a certain ericson 36 cruiser has my eye...
I had an earlier ketch version of this boat, it was a very good sea boat but absolutely could not point. It also was no where near as fast as I would prefer. 5.5 - 6.0 was a strech. The sloop I have now will get 2 knots more with no problem. That said I sailed her for twenty two years and she always got me there. She was also a very dry boat. It was a rarety to have a sea board her.
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