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31-03-2015, 23:20
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Join Date: Mar 2015
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On the market but unsure which one
I want to upgrade to a larger boat. I currently have a trusty Oceana 38 which has been good to me. I am considering one of the following – Hanse 575 / Discovery 57 / Oyster 575 / Amel 55 / Gunfleet 58 / Halberg-Rassy 55. I would prefer something safe and solid, great interior and quality, comfort with control – particularly in conditions over 20 knots, ideal for a couple, live aboard for ocean crossings and very easy to control from the helm station. I would appreciate words from some wise old salts please.
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01-04-2015, 03:02
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#2
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Earth
Boat: Amel Super Maramu 53 ft
Posts: 614
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Re: On the market but unsure which one
Welcome. Are you thinking new? If so, all the above will reach the 1M except for Hanse. (In fact, Hanse would be removed from your list if I was choosing)
They are good boats for the Med... I would not go into iffy weather with them. Hull shape makes them slam in rough sea conditions.
I would choose an Amel because I am not prejudiced... :-)
GL in your choice.
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01-04-2015, 03:49
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Senior Cruiser
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Thunder Bay, Ontario - 48-29N x 89-20W
Boat: (Cruiser Living On Dirt)
Posts: 49,139
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Re: On the market but unsure which one
Greetings and welcome aboard the CF, Mike.
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"If you didn't have the time or money to do it right in the first place, when will you get the time/$ to fix it?"
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01-04-2015, 04:56
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Riga, Latvia
Posts: 247
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Re: On the market but unsure which one
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Originally Posted by Mike57
I would prefer something safe and solid, great interior and quality, comfort with control – particularly in conditions over 20 knots, ideal for a couple, live aboard for ocean crossings and very easy to control from the helm station. .
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Hi. Mike!
In case of 55-60' monohull I would build her custom in Holland. This was always in my mind until I tried catamaran sailing decade ago.
You have a hard job to do, thus wish You to take right choice!
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01-04-2015, 07:30
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Malta
Boat: Gib' Sea 352
Posts: 33
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Re: On the market but unsure which one
Have a look at the Boreal Line ... The boreal 52/55 is as the top of my list!
Boréal Yachts : des Tropiques aux Grands Froids
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01-04-2015, 08:13
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Potomac/Chesapeake
Boat: Hunter 36
Posts: 663
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Re: On the market but unsure which one
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Originally Posted by Mike57
I want to upgrade to a larger boat. I currently have a trusty Oceana 38 which has been good to me. I am considering one of the following – Hanse 575 / Discovery 57 / Oyster 575 / Amel 55 / Gunfleet 58 / Halberg-Rassy 55. I would prefer something safe and solid, great interior and quality, comfort with control – particularly in conditions over 20 knots, ideal for a couple, live aboard for ocean crossings and very easy to control from the helm station. I would appreciate words from some wise old salts please.
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Not a wise old salt here, but what is your budget? There is a wide gulf in the prices of those boats. But they are all outstanding. I love the tender garage on the Hanse 575, which can double as a huge storage space.
You might also want to consider the Moody 54 DS. If you want easy control from the helm station, it doesn't get much better than the interior helm station on this:
https://www.moodyboats.com/gb#/gb/nc...documents.html
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01-04-2015, 09:50
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: New York
Boat: FP, Eleuthera 60
Posts: 528
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Re: On the market but unsure which one
Discovery is has a gorgeous interior but I agree with Steamer, a nice catamaran like a Swiss, Gunboat, etc. would be my pick.
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01-04-2015, 10:53
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Trunk (boot) of my car
Boat: Tinker Traveller...a dozen feet of bluewater awesomeness!
Posts: 1,230
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Re: On the market but unsure which one
You might also want to consider adding a Morris to your list. I think you'd like one of those.
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01-04-2015, 13:34
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Earth
Boat: Amel Super Maramu 53 ft
Posts: 614
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Re: On the market but unsure which one
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Originally Posted by Rohan
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But but but... since when has a good garage been a requirement for a world ranger sailboat?
Also, too bad the Moody got popped with an ugly stick!
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01-04-2015, 13:57
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Annapolis MD
Boat: Building a Max Cruise 44 hybrid electric cat
Posts: 3,194
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Re: On the market but unsure which one
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Originally Posted by Eleuthera 2014
Also, too bad the Moody got popped with an ugly stick!
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From an Amel owner?
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01-04-2015, 17:41
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Melbourne Australia
Posts: 42
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Re: On the market but unsure which one
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Originally Posted by funjohnson
From an Amel owner?
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Oi - careful!!!
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01-04-2015, 18:12
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#12
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Nicholasville, Kentucky
Boat: 15 foot Canoe
Posts: 14,191
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Re: On the market but unsure which one
Sorry I can't help. I wouldn't go over 36 feet for a couple to cruise. My 42 is a project boat I should never have purchased because it's way too large.
Good luck in whichever boat you choose.
kind regards,
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01-04-2015, 21:40
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 62
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Re: On the market but unsure which one
I would second the Amel
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02-04-2015, 03:54
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 33
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Re: On the market but unsure which one
I am thinking along the same lines as the OP and have narrowed my thoughts down to Hylas and Oyster.
One thing that causes me some concern after taking 3 years out due to ill health and coming from a more traditional type of boat, Creelock 40 with wind vane and solar is the apparent over reliance on generators and engine alternators to run the charging systems and purely an autopilot for long passages.
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02-04-2015, 04:13
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Earth
Boat: Amel Super Maramu 53 ft
Posts: 614
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Re: On the market but unsure which one
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Originally Posted by Vancouver Pete
I am thinking along the same lines as the OP and have narrowed my thoughts down to Hylas and Oyster.
One thing that causes me some concern after taking 3 years out due to ill health and coming from a more traditional type of boat, Creelock 40 with wind vane and solar is the apparent over reliance on generators and engine alternators to run the charging systems and purely an autopilot for long passages.
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I had the same thoughts when I bought Eleuthera but I've added the systems to give me peace and alternatives during my cruising.
For instance, I added 600W of solar (mounted atop a gantry ... serves as davits during short sectors) to relieve the genset, I also installed a second AP (hydraulic) to offset the loss of the 7000. (Hand steering in quartering seas gets "old news" fast.) I've added a DC & AC Duo voltage water maker too. Again to ease the load on the genset.
I think our alternatives will prove good choices in the end.
GL in your search.
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