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Old 16-06-2014, 12:30   #16
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Just avoid them, obviously slightly eccentric with that rig, no telling how they'll react. :-)
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Re: On Starboard or Port Tack?

Learned something today. I would have looked at the second mast to determine which tack it was on.

They must have modified that mizzen. It looks like some modified design of a Freedom, too, or maybe an older version.
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Re: On Starboard or Port Tack?

It is a cat ketch and the breeze is off the starboard quarter, judging by the ensign. So, he's on starboard tack. Yes, the foremast is the taller, quite obvious in the first picture.

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On Starboard or Port Tack?

It is indeed a Freedom 40 cat ketch. The main sail, on the foremost mast, would make me believe the vessel is on a port tack. I don't believe the mizzen sail has anything to do with determining which tack a vessel is on. With the booms past 90 degrees a cat ketch can sail main degrees off of ddw. Those sails do not have the high roach that many of the original Haarstick sails have. And yes, stay the hell out of the way!!! People that sail such unconventional rigs are just not like the rest of you. :-)
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Old 16-06-2014, 21:43   #20
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its a cat -ketch, the mainmast is the forward one.


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Thank you Dave, I know that. I was asking sailorboy1 a question.
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It is a cat ketch and the breeze is off the starboard quarter, judging by the ensign. So, he's on starboard tack. Yes, the foremast is the taller, quite obvious in the first picture.

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It's not which side the wind is coming from, but rather which side the mainsail is on.
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Re: On Starboard or Port Tack?

markpierce,

I'm not wanting to get in a big argument here, but would you be kind enough to quote a source? Thanks a lot.

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Re: On Starboard or Port Tack?

ColReg 12b:

"For the purpose of this rule, the windward side shall be deemed to be the side opposite to that on which the mainsail is carried or, in the case of a square rigged vessel, the side opposite to that on which to largest fore-and-aft sail is carried"
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Would their mizzen stays'l have more area than the mainsail? Looks pretty big to me. ?????

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Would their mizzen stays'l have more area than the mainsail? Looks pretty big to me. ?????

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Possibly, but that doesn't strike me as relevant to the topic. It's not square rigged, so the mainsail is the relevant sail - and on a cat ketch, that's the boomed sail on the foremast.
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Yes, the foremast is the taller, quite obvious in the first picture.

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Nope, the masts are exactly the same height... the perspective is deceiving you. When I lived aboard in the '80s, we had one for a neighbor.
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Nope, the masts are exactly the same height... the perspective is deceiving you. When I lived aboard in the '80s, we had one for a neighbor.
It's got to be a schooner. By what logic would that foremast be a main, stepped where it is?

Yeah, if it's a quarter inch taller. But I don't think that it is! It's a schooner on a starboard tack.
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It's got to be a schooner. By what logic would that foremast be a main, stepped where it is?

Yeah, if it's a quarter inch taller. But I don't think that it is! It's a schooner on a starboard tack.
By the logic that it was designed and built as a cat ketch and designated as such by Gary Hoyt, the naval architect who designed it.

Here's the poop: FREEDOM 40 (CC) sailboat specifications and details on sailboatdata.com

A schooner has one or more headsails.

You need to become a bit more knowledgeable about catboats.
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By the logic that it was designed and built as a cat ketch and designated as such by Gary Hoyt, the naval architect who designed it.

Here's the poop: FREEDOM 40 (CC) sailboat specifications and details on sailboatdata.com

A schooner has one or more headsails.

You need to become a bit more knowledgeable about catboats.
Okay, the designer calls it a ketch, and yes I know less than nothing about catboats.

Where is the spec on the masts, and who other than Ukeluthier and Gary Hoyt would call that foremast a main?
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its a cat -ketch, the mainmast is the forward one. dave
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