Originally Posted by simplex
Thank you for the replies. There is a boat show
coming to Vancouver in January which I will be attending every day of and talking to as many reps as I can. I agree preferences will change and keeping it simple is a great philosophy. I always try and keep an open mind especially when it comes to wants/needs. There are a lot of reputable blue water boats out there but I'm wary of buying
something such as an island packet '35 for 100k that's already 25 years old. Yes the bones may be solid but chances are it'll be dated with so much more to refit than an early 2000s production or semi production boat wouldn't it? I definitely need to go walk them all as pictures on yacht world aren't exactly ideal for making up your mind on such a major purchase
. Realistically though with the trip I have in mind the amount of major blue water work will be rather minimal compared to amount of time coastal cruising. That last point though may just show my lack of experience as well though haha
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If you're focus is bluewater cruising then the boat shows aren't much help. Great for looking at the latest gadgets but their focus is on selling new boats that will either be raced or reside in a marina.
We've been to many shows and have never stumbled upon any magic blue water advice. There seems to be lots of focus on meeting the needs of the stereotypical 1950s housewife at the boat shows.
You can of course cruise
in anything. Buying a boat, learning
it and getting it ready for cruising is time consuming. 2 years will fly by.
I'd buy my cruising boat up front. Join a sailing club to build skills. Cheaper to use their boats. Many of the classic blue water books
are more informative as regards cruising. Chartering is not great for boat selection IMHO. Most charter
layouts are cramped and the boats have little to cruising upgrades.
Plenty of good you tube videos depicting the trials and tribulations of cruising. La Vagabonde, Follow the Boat, sv Delos, Drake Parragon, Guidos sailing channel, etc. Good podcasts like 59 North, Med Sailor, Sailing podcast, etc.
My wife and I bought a 1984 Liberty 458 that was in excellent condition. It was fully equipped for cruising. We are upgrading and enhancing the usual systems like instrumentation, solar
controls and replacing the dodger
. We just replaced the original teak
decks with Dek King. We'll be fitting a Schaeffer boom furler
next year. The hardware
is all big, rugged Schaeffer.
What attracted us to the Liberty 458 was:
1) The pedigree. These boats have a superb reputation. We weren't reliant on glossy brochures, dealer bs or unsubstantiated opinion.
2) No latent defects. Most boats come off the production line with very complex systems. They are also built to minimize build costs. Few manufacturers would even build a hull
as tough as some of the older blue water boats. ( i have 25 years of composite experience)
3) Depreciation is fully baked in.
is beautiful solid teak
. No laminates and cheap
5) The time and money
we spend are all enhancements and normal maintenance
. We're don't have to waste time restoring the vessel. This means more sailing time.
6) No finance. We're not suckered by the next magic design. You'll be kept busy enough on maintenance
We've been living aboard
for 2 years now.
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