Nine Years on the Hard - Page 4

speedoo · 31-10-2009, 12:44

In looking at the pictures of that Columbia, I noted that the interior layout seems kind of strange. The nav station is up forward right behind the v-berth... a very poor location IMO. And the galley layout is not going to be very useful at sea, unless things are quite calm. I assume there is a quarterberth, but I can't tell from the pics.

But most important to me is a cockpit that seems almost dysfunctional for sailing, with that wheel clogging things up and the primary winches located so far aft. If it were my boat, I'd replace the wheel with a tiller and move the winches. (but that's just me... I really hate wheels on smaller boats particularly when they are in cockpits that were clearly not designed for wheels)

jm21 · 31-10-2009, 12:45

Thanks for the book recommendations. Yes, we have very different ideas about size. They just bought a "small" 2,000 square foot home for their retirement. Why a retired couple who plan to spend most of the year cruising or traveling needs a house that big is beyond me. Anyways, getting a little off-topic.

Yes, the Columbia seems to be pretty over-priced. Looking at other ads on the net asking prices are $10-25k.

I don't really have any use for a nav station and wouldn't be sailing at sea for a long time.

jm21 · 31-10-2009, 12:59

An eclosed wheel makes a lot of sense for sailing in the PNW (read: motoring 90% of the time, many times in the rain).

speedoo · 31-10-2009, 13:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by jm21

An eclosed wheel makes a lot of sense for sailing in the PNW (read: motoring 90% of the time, many times in the rain).

Yes, I hear you about the PNW. Very beautiful, but the breeze is way too fickle for me. It's trawler or motorsailer country, IMO.

HHNTR111 · 31-10-2009, 15:48

All boats, even boats you have had for 20 years and taken great care of, need work. If this is your first boat, get a smaller, newer one, because you will still be doing a lot of work.

If you really want this one, get two surveys by two completely unrelated people, get repair estimated from two completely unrelated yards, and then see where you are.

Remember, caviat emptor!!

jm21 · 01-11-2009, 10:50

Well, the owner sent me an e-mail that they were too busy today so I won't be viewing the boat. Sounding like it's more of a project than I want to take on so might just bag the idea.

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31-10-2009, 12:44	#1
speedoo Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 655	In looking at the pictures of that Columbia, I noted that the interior layout seems kind of strange. The nav station is up forward right behind the v-berth... a very poor location IMO. And the galley layout is not going to be very useful at sea, unless things are quite calm. I assume there is a quarterberth, but I can't tell from the pics. But most important to me is a cockpit that seems almost dysfunctional for sailing, with that wheel clogging things up and the primary winches located so far aft. If it were my boat, I'd replace the wheel with a tiller and move the winches. (but that's just me... I really hate wheels on smaller boats particularly when they are in cockpits that were clearly not designed for wheels)

31-10-2009, 12:45	#2
jm21 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Washington, USA Posts: 73	Thanks for the book recommendations. Yes, we have very different ideas about size. They just bought a "small" 2,000 square foot home for their retirement. Why a retired couple who plan to spend most of the year cruising or traveling needs a house that big is beyond me. Anyways, getting a little off-topic. Yes, the Columbia seems to be pretty over-priced. Looking at other ads on the net asking prices are $10-25k. I don't really have any use for a nav station and wouldn't be sailing at sea for a long time.

31-10-2009, 12:59	#3
jm21 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Washington, USA Posts: 73	An eclosed wheel makes a lot of sense for sailing in the PNW (read: motoring 90% of the time, many times in the rain).

31-10-2009, 15:48	#5
HHNTR111 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Rowayton, Ct. Boat: Cambria 46, Starlight Posts: 26	All boats, even boats you have had for 20 years and taken great care of, need work. If this is your first boat, get a smaller, newer one, because you will still be doing a lot of work. If you really want this one, get two surveys by two completely unrelated people, get repair estimated from two completely unrelated yards, and then see where you are. Remember, caviat emptor!!

01-11-2009, 10:50	#6
jm21 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Washington, USA Posts: 73	Well, the owner sent me an e-mail that they were too busy today so I won't be viewing the boat. Sounding like it's more of a project than I want to take on so might just bag the idea.