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Old 23-12-2015, 09:25   #16
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Re: New to sailing.Live aboard advice? :)

ELEUTHERA.

Love your boat but you are dead wrong about unstayed rigs.

I have sailed a sistership to your boat and a Freedom 44 offshore.

I will never go back to a rig that relies on a hundred bits and pieces.
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Old 23-12-2015, 09:29   #17
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Re: New to sailing.Live aboard advice? :)

I will do some more research, thank you very much for the recommendation!
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Old 23-12-2015, 09:32   #18
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ELEUTHERA.

Love your boat but you are dead wrong about unstayed rigs.

I have sailed a sistership to your boat and a Freedom 44 offshore.

I will never go back to a rig that relies on a hundred bits and pieces.
I fell in love with the unstayed rig because it seemed so simple and genius, can a freedom 44 be easily singlehanded? Thank you
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Old 23-12-2015, 09:33   #19
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Re: New to sailing.Live aboard advice? :)

One of the hardest things for people new to sailing who want to buy a boat is to be realistic about how it will really be used.
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Old 23-12-2015, 09:38   #20
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Re: New to sailing.Live aboard advice? :)

I would like to suggest including Pacific Seacraft 34 and 31 in your list to consider. Very good ocean cruisers and very sea kindly, which will be important to you and your passengers. The 31 has nearly the same interior volume as the 34 due to the stern design.
Selecting a sea kindly design will be important. I'm sure others will suggests other boats suitable for ocean voyaging. I just happen to be familiar with Pacific Seacraft and they are strong, comfortable and safe. Best of luck!
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Old 23-12-2015, 09:38   #21
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Re: New to sailing.Live aboard advice? :)

The Freedom 44 won in the Single handed Bermuda Race.

For a first boat, I would settle on a smaller Freedom.

I have sailed Nonsuch's too but found bow quite bluff for windward work offshore.
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ELEUTHERA.

Love your boat but you are dead wrong about unstayed rigs.

I have sailed a sistership to your boat and a Freedom 44 offshore.

I will never go back to a rig that relies on a hundred bits and pieces.
Had a look at some of the Freedom boats. Does this mast configuration present any issues with stepping the mast? There are cases in our area where the mast needs to be stepped in order to provide bridge clearances.
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Old 23-12-2015, 10:10   #23
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Re: New to sailing.Live aboard advice? :)

A forum member is selling his PSC 34 at a huge discount. I hate the thought of prospering at someone's misfortune, but it's worth a look. He posted this over on SN.

Disclaimer; I am biased towards Pacific Seacrafts

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Old 23-12-2015, 10:18   #24
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Jeanneaus are not real bluewater boats?? been smoking something lately? You might want to take a look at the latest ARC and see how many Jeanneaus are in that list - Your profile says nothing of you owning a boat nor any other info for that matter.
We sail a Jeanneau and have been full time liveaboard crusiers for the past 8 years with a 2 handed Atlantic crossing and more miles than we care to count. She is great sailing boat and very comfortable and for single handing she is set up well as I single handed from Miami to Hadley Harbor and back with a lot of it on the outside
So please do not tell me Jeanneaus are not bluewater.
No need to get snippy. I already said that people take them offshore-people take just about anything offshore. I do own a boat, it actually says right there under my display name. I have not owned a Jeanneau but I have been aboard them and did not like them. I'm trying to offer advice which is always compromised by an amount of prejudice and subjectivity. It's up to you whether or not to take offense. I'm glad you enjoy your boat, in the end that counts for a lot.

PS: I second the recommendation for a Pacific Seacraft 34!
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A forum member is selling his PSC 34 at a huge discount. I hate the thought of prospering at someone's misfortune, but it's worth a look. He posted this over on SN.

Disclaimer; I am biased towards Pacific Seacrafts

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Wow! Too bad for Cheoah! That deal will be very hard to beat.
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Re: New to sailing.Live aboard advice? :)

I also recommending the Pacific Seacraft 31 or 34. I don't have experience with these boats but I have been researching every boat made. The 34 is my personal choice. The 31 a close second but a little less desirable for 2 people and a dog.
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I agree, Pacific Seacraft's are one of my absolute favorites.
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Re: New to sailing.Live aboard advice? :)

Ebourg,

The freestanding masts have no wires, spreaders etc etc so it is easier
than a rigged, keel stepped mast. It is also much much lighter and can be done with a spinnaker halyard off another boat alongside.
This said, I only have experience with 2 deck stepped masts in tabernacles.
Quite difficult to do regularly for a bridge. Even on a 30ft ultralight racer
that I owned, complete with A frame etc. Worse on a Westsail 32.
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Re: New to sailing.Live aboard advice? :)

Y do u think sabers don't build boats anymore...they r junk
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Re: New to sailing.Live aboard advice? :)

Sounds like you are considering very adequate boats.

I am currently in Hawaii. Sailed here in an Islander 36 from Mexico. Still on my way to the South Pacific, then on to Asia.

The part that jumps out at me is that you are new to sailing, and you want to do a voyage single handed. Maybe you just wants boat that is easy to singlehand. We all want that. My own boat is set up for singlehanding as much as I know how to set it up. So you're good. But if you want to actually singlehand, then I'm sure that you won't want to be single handing a boat while you are still new to sailing.

I will say this as appropriately as I know how to.
Many sailors consider singlehanding to be poor seamanship, regardless of how you word it.
I'm sure that I will be lamblasted for saying that, so lamblasters be advised that I didn't just make that up.

One of the traps that many sailors fall victim to is "the idea". The idea that you will need this or that. The idea that you will be doing things that you have dreamed of.
All very possible, but marinas and mooring fields and anchorages and boatyards are full of dreams that just couldn't come together.

It is not my intention to discourage you. Quite the opposite. I have met so many that are fulfilling those dreams as well. But there are many more who have no idea what they are up against, or when they find out what they are up against, say.....
"Oh nevermind".

I do not think for an instant that you are one of those. I am saying all of this in hopes that you will go slowly so that you don't become one of those.

BTW. I just aquired a Hans Christian 38T that was someone's dream. Sat for 20 years. I have decided not to keep it and go through all of the work to bring it up to what I have now. So any interested parties please PM me. I won't mention a price here, but I picked it up cheap enough to keep the price very attractive.

Any lamblasters, ..... Oh nevermind.
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