Originally Posted by anglooff
I didn't mean to give the impression that wooden boats needed twice as much time as others. I was relating to my friend's boat, which was really a project boat and needed a massive amount of work/time to bring up to new basic standards. After the refit
was completed then annual maintainence and further improvements were easily facilitated in the off season.
I don't know either boat so if local experience says the former is not suitable for singlehanding
and is more performance orientated then go with that assessment and/or arrange a sail and check yourself. We don't have the design/ sail plan/ weight statistics to assess however a 1.2 metre keel on the length does not immediately shout extreme performance boat to me. You mention suitable for the task....what task?
The laurinKoster looks lovely too... Well maintained and probably younger...but photos are no substitute for a careful experienced survey. Some discolouration would not be unusual but as Paul stated above a wooden boat can become an albatross rather than a catalyst for a new sailing experience, so do survey.
As to cost/buying price. It is over thirty years since I last visited Sweden. However I remember it to be the most expensive place I have ever been. So the Euro11k could be relatively cheap
in Swedish comparision. I do know that Stolkholm fjoird is a wonderful place to sail with an unlimited amount of sailing destinations/islands.
Finally if your search continues...don't worry. Just keep posting
the pictures they are a joy to see.
Not to worry! The more feedback I get the better! Everyone is having his own unique experience and that's what is important for me to hear!
Listening to all of you, I decided it's better get a boat in a condition as good as possible (and pay a bit more), because I have the time for regular maintenance and a little extra work, but sure not for a major renovation!
Did renovate many old houses in the past (hobby) and sure, it always takes 2 to 3 times longer. Therefore I am 10 times more careful in choosing the right boat to own.
Both local and international experience point out that the Linjekrysare could well be also a cruiser, but far more sensitive than the Koster, for sure, the Linje, is more about (peformance) sailing than cruising I guess.
But indeed also not extreme perfomance.
The task: Not too heavy on the helm
, sea worthy I prefer, reasonable comfortable, not over sensitive, but sensitive and not to sluggish, easy to handle also single
handed, since I sail mostly with people having 0 experience. (Sailed a 29 foot Dehler, no problem)
Of course, images
are no substitute, but when I inspect myself, I take pictures of every single corner and that really helps to spot issue's I did not see on-site.
and now Sweden: Sweden had the reputation in Europe
to be extremely expensive. Sweden's economy did not suffer from the 2nd world war, instead benefited selling iron ore to the Germans during the war! after the war their industry just continued exporting all over the world. Up to the late 80's, one of the strongest economies in the world, till their Banks got bored and wanted more and started to gamble with everybody's money
, like all Banks did recently all over the world causing a major world wide recession. Sweden got it earlier: The government
needed to bail out most Banks in Sweden in the early 90's and the country was on it's knees! Therefore they joined the EU!
In short: Their currency collapsed and since then, (after also a major properly bubble burst) Sweden never got back to where it was before.
Right now and particulalrly 2.5 years ago when I moved to Sweden, Sweden was having the cheapest houses all over the West of Europe. (one of the reasons I went!) For the same money
I could buy 1 hour south of London, only a house in depressing area's and for the same amount one of the most expensive in Jarna, south of Stockholm. It was indeed slightly different.
In the United Kindom, could not even contemplate of having a boat, since mooring
in the marina could cost between € 4000 and € 9000 per year.
Here 10 minutes away from me just € 170 per year.
So I can have a life style in Sweden unthinkable in the UK.
Yes, I keep on searching and this weekend I will have a look at the Laurin Koster
and an extended Folk Boat design:
All the best and again thanks for any feedback,