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Old 09-09-2012, 10:25   #46
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Well, you have your opinion and I have mine. It is hard for people sometimes to admit that what used to be is not anymore. There are still millions of Mercedes and Volvos sold on the premises of what they used to be for robustness and security. Guess what, they are less robust nowadays than most Japanese cars. People have still in mind that American cars are poor quality, when actually it is not true for some builders and models, I personally kept a US built car for close to 300,000 kms on cold and snowy Canadian roads for over 10 years with minimal repairs.
This could be argued for ever. Yes Beneteaus are sailing around the world, and so are most of the boats manufactured in the US as well. But the difference is travelling trouble free or with an open tool box. And my personal experience and the one of many of my friends with these boats has made up my opinion on these brands.
Thank you anyways for bringing up your opinion to me and the rest of the members, every opinion is worth being exposed here and regardless of what these boats are worth for us, the value in OZ is what interested the OP.
None of your opinion are backed by the facts. I wasnt running down US sailing boats. Merely that the us makes sailing boats for a very specific predominantly domestic niche market. Hence of the OP wants a good resellable brand then it's likely
to be a European production boat.

Believe you il take a good quality European car over a jap anyway. The japs produce the most yawn inducing stuff at the moment. Give me an Audi Quattro any day. ( preferably with the 2.5l turbo diesel. ) funnily the Europeans especially the Germans sell a lot of cars in the US yet the US sells virtually nothing ( as in US models) in Europe. similar with sail
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Old 10-09-2012, 07:14   #47
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Re: Need Advice on a Blue Water Cruiser

How about an older Nautor Swan?
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Old 10-09-2012, 07:52   #48
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Re: Need Advice on a Blue Water Cruiser

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$200,000
Newer than 2000
42-47 feet

That means a production boat. If he wants a better quality boat he's going to have to look at older boats. Period.

And that includes Island Packets, Ovnis or whatever your preference is for blue water cruising.
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Old 10-09-2012, 08:04   #49
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Re: Need Advice on a Blue Water Cruiser

Interesting--when I looked on Yachtworld I saw better prices in Europe than in the US--what a difference a few years makes! If you have a couple of years, you could easily start in the Med.

If you want to sell the boat on the East Coast of Oz, better restrict the draft to 2 meters or less.

Its a buyer's market-your initial bid should be at least 25% below the asking price.
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Old 10-09-2012, 09:27   #50
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Although this one does not concur with point 2,it would be worth a look;

http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listi...ng_id=1808&url

add a watermaker and bring some extra cans of fuel and off you go.

Someone spent serious money on it.

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Old 10-09-2012, 10:14   #51
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Re: Need Advice on a Blue Water Cruiser

Beneteau offers excellent blue water vessels in your length, age, price and re-sale value range.
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Find a 90s production Valiant 40 or 42! Great pedigree, well built and your family will be safe.
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Best not ever bump the bottom with this puppy. Bring an extra rudder...
Yep,a bit less draft would be more practical for the op's intent(or perhaps an entirely diffrent keel).I also saw that the op's budget are $ and not €'s ,furthermore I focussed too much on the fact whether the op could sell it or not in OZ so apologies for the "find"

.It is a nice ride however,been a winchmonkey on one for a weekend and it will kick your ass!
The X442 is a sailboat.



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Re: Need Advice on a Blue Water Cruiser

Any boat will make you a "mechanics,plumbers,blacksmiths..." and you will love it

or pay someone.
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