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Old 08-04-2008, 12:22   #1
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Need advice for about a Cruiser for under 35K USD?

This is a strange one i know but here is the deal.

I crossed the pacific in an Ericson 29 from 1971. It was great but now i have sold that and upped my budget from 15K a boat to 35K a boat

I am from Europe but will get the boat in America because of the price and the weak dollar (sorry, not my fault).

The problem is that i am not familiear with american boats and what to buy in that price range?
1. I am looking for a 'newish' boat (1980 -> up)
2. Minimum two cabins
3. Diesel engine
The rest i can figure out or purchase myself.

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Old 08-04-2008, 13:53   #2
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Kjell,
a couple of points.
If you come to the USA I would recommend annapolis as a good place to start looking for a boat, lots of boats, lots of brokers and access to the Atalntic and the Carib.
Boats to look at; If you are importing back to the Eu you would be better off buying a european built boat- much easier and they will also have met the RCD. I have helped a few of my friends by boats here so have been through this at least three times. I presume you know all the Europeand manufacturers, all of them are available used here. in your price range you will find currently a Dufour 31, Arpege, Moody 31, Camper nic 33, Elizabethan 30, and a couople of westerly's
US built boats, you will pay less, or be able to go up in size,
I would recommend looking at the CAL range the 35 is a pretty boat, currently there is one for 29K,
Columbia and Irwin- at around 30K you will find something in the 34 foot range maybe a 36/ 37, the Irwin in particular can be a fine buy.
There is currentl a very nice Morgan Out Island 37 here for $32K, a nice cruising boat.
There maybe more, if you are interested PM me
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Old 09-04-2008, 00:13   #3
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pirate Thank you.

Thank you for the kind and fast reply.

Yes, you are right abuout the problems with importing bots to Europe. It is a problem. I am still not sure if i want to do that or not. If i go to Europe it would not be via the Atlantic so i will have time to think that one through. Since i had a 29 last time i have to have the 3 foot extra and would like to add another 3 so maybe i dont get the 3 foot decease for a while.

My goal is therfor like this:
  • maximum 35 K
  • Minimum 35 foot
  • Minimum 2 cabins (with doors)
  • An extre 5K will be spent on outfitting with what i want.
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Old 09-04-2008, 01:12   #4
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Is 60ft too big? Because there is the one in the Classifieds at the bottom of the main page. Even though she if FC, it's still a steal at US$10K.
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Old 09-04-2008, 07:42   #5
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For the love of God

Alan, for the love of god, this is way to short for a reply from you. It is supposed to be at least one page and contain information about where you saw the boat and how i can find it, hehe.

Thanks man, have a great day
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And, welcome to the US! We welcome your purchasing of our goods due to the low dollar. This is one of the benefits of a devalued currency as it increases exports and foreign investment.
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Annapolis is a great place for "boat shopping".....

another spot, if you have transportation, is St. Petersburg, Florida......

more boats registered there than any other Florida city......

but North and South of St. Pete (1 or 2 hour drive) you will find "tons" of sailboats..

Good Luck and enjoy your stay!
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Old 09-04-2008, 12:47   #8
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Annapolis shopping..

It seem like Annapolis is the place to go, does anyone know of any websites of local vendors so i can have a look at what's there before jumping on a plaine

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Crudader Yacht Sales is a good company Crusader Yacht Sales

Gratitude Yachting Center, in Rock Hall (across the Bay) is good, as well Home Page - index.php - GYC

Annapolis Yacht Sales http://www.annapolisyachtsales.com/

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Kjell,

You are not limited to considering European-built boats. American boats with the CE Certification would qualify for import into the EU.

From the Island Packet website...

"The CE Certification represents a voluntary inspection, although it is required for those companies wishing to export their product to any of the European Community countries. The CE certificate, as outlined in prior memos, encompasses almost all of the NMMA standards, and then goes further into stability and usability, scantlings and more. Annual inspections by the International Marine Certification Institute (IMCI) from Belgium, ensure that we continue to be in compliance with this stringent standards. The CE certification goes further into breaking yachts into four use categories: they range from “A-Ocean” (a basically unrestricted rating) to “D-Sheltered Waters,” mandating that the yacht is suitable only where wave heights and wind speeds won’t exceed two meters or Force 4, respectively. Every Island Packet model built since the introduction of these CE standards complies with and is certified to the highest rating available, Category A-Ocean. What these certifications mean to you are, in some cases, lower insurance rates, and the peace of mind of knowing your yacht was inspected by a third party to comply with some of the most comprehensive design and building requirements in the marine industry."
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CE

Thank you for that.

The CE is a B**** for us. Because it has always been possible to get cheaper and just as good bots in the US they made it very very hard for us to import. If the boat does not have a CE form the manifacturer we have to pay redicouleos amounts of money for manuals in our language, different agencies and so on. I think the mimimum is something like 10K US.
Anyhow, thank you for the info, i guess i will go for the boat i want and worry about things like this later

Now i will check out the links you sent, thx again..
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