Cruisers Forum
 


Join CruisersForum Today

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 09-09-2016, 05:51   #1
Registered User

Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Putney VT
Boat: Pacific SeaCraft 31 Mariah
Posts: 9
Mystery Self Steer Wind Vane Help

I picked up the wind vane below as a "pig in a poke" to settle my curiosity after seller who was selling it for a friend and had no information. Having failed on net to identify for two days. Any identifying of maker, type etc. or how it works and experience with this type of unit would be greatly appreciated.
__________________

__________________
yellotaxi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2016, 05:59   #2
Registered User
 
DDabs's Avatar

Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Caribbean
Boat: Caliber 40LRC
Posts: 1,490
Images: 16
Re: Mystery Self Steer Wind Vane Help

picture might help
__________________

__________________
DDabs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2016, 06:11   #3
Registered User

Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Putney VT
Boat: Pacific SeaCraft 31 Mariah
Posts: 9
Re: Mystery Self Steer Wind Vane Help

Sorry, I thought I attached a picture, I am technically challenged with computers. You have to be patient with us senior citizens. I can send you a few I have from my email yellotaxi@aol.com I know only old farts are still on AOL.

Put same re in email in case it goes to spam.

...smooth seas and fair winds...
__________________
yellotaxi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2016, 14:25   #4
Registered User

Join Date: May 2008
Location: SW Florida
Boat: Bristol (Alden) 35 Sloop "Zephyr"
Posts: 498
Images: 2
Re: Mystery Self Steer Wind Vane Help

Here is a few pics you sent me, my computer challenged friend. Glad you sail a lot better than you use the PC!
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	DSCF8686.jpg
Views:	297
Size:	453.8 KB
ID:	130902   Click image for larger version

Name:	DSCF8683.jpg
Views:	321
Size:	454.9 KB
ID:	130905  

__________________
over40pirate is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2016, 14:32   #5
Guy
Registered User

Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: So. Oregon
Boat: Seafarer36c
Posts: 3,944
Re: Mystery Self Steer Wind Vane Help

That looks home made, nice welding. Is it a pendulum style? Hard to tell from the pictures.
__________________
Guy is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2016, 14:43   #6
Registered User

Join Date: May 2008
Location: SW Florida
Boat: Bristol (Alden) 35 Sloop "Zephyr"
Posts: 498
Images: 2
Re: Mystery Self Steer Wind Vane Help

it's not a pendulum style. Lines run to the tiller. It looks well made, looking at it in person.
It's a horizontal axis vane. In a book that came with it on wind vanes in general, it is the same design as a kit available years ago from Quantock Marine Enterprises.
__________________
over40pirate is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2016, 15:24   #7
Registered User
 
Snowpetrel's Avatar

Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Hobart
Boat: Alloy Peterson 40
Posts: 2,897
Re: Mystery Self Steer Wind Vane Help

Yes, looks like a QME style, also very similar to Bill Belchers OGT series. He used them as ztandalone units for smaller boats or for very well balanced rudders and auxiliary rudders. And as a vane unit for his more complex trim tab and servo units. Looks well made. Do you have any dimensions for the vane? How is the cover attached to the vane?

Sent from my SM-G930F using Cruisers Sailing Forum mobile app
__________________
My Ramblings
Snowpetrel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2016, 15:38   #8
Moderator
 
Don C L's Avatar

Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Channel Islands, CA
Boat: 1962 Columbia 29 MK 1 #37
Posts: 3,598
Images: 27
Re: Mystery Self Steer Wind Vane Help

Quote:
Originally Posted by yellotaxi View Post
I picked up the wind vane below as a "pig in a poke" to settle my curiosity after seller who was selling it for a friend and had no information. Having failed on net to identify for two days. Any identifying of maker, type etc. or how it works and experience with this type of unit would be greatly appreciated.
If you want to sell it, let me know I may be interested. It looks like a pretty well-made copy of the basic QME concept which had lines that run to the tiler. Yours was made, I believe to have a cloth covering on the vane. I used to sail with a friend who had one and it worked great for us on a Columbia 24. Any boat up to 30 with not too much helm and/or balanced rudder would do ok I bet.
oops forgot:
The way it works is, it's mounted off the stern and the blade sticks straight up. Rotate the blade so that it in line with the wind. Attach lines coming off that large pulley wheel under the blade to your tiller. If the boat's angle changes the wind will then be hitting the blade face on one side thus pushing on it. Since the blade is long and large, the leverage is pretty good to tug on the line that then alters the tiller angle and brings the boat back to its course. Once the wind is no longer striking one side of the blade, the lead weights bring it back up. Works better than it sounds.
I guess you can tell how old I am if I am enthusiastic about a QME!
__________________
DL
Pythagoras
1962 Columbia 29 MKI #37
Don C L is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 10-09-2016, 08:08   #9
Registered User

Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: St Marks, FL
Boat: Dufour Arpege
Posts: 32
Re: Mystery Self Steer Wind Vane Help

Let us know if you decide to sell it. Always looking for another self steering wind vane to try.
__________________
jag39 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-09-2016, 08:13   #10
Registered User

Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 65
Re: Mystery Self Steer Wind Vane Help

Don T. you should be an instruction manual writer....Great job explanation.
__________________
dick sargent is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-09-2016, 09:48   #11
Moderator
 
Don C L's Avatar

Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Channel Islands, CA
Boat: 1962 Columbia 29 MK 1 #37
Posts: 3,598
Images: 27
Re: Mystery Self Steer Wind Vane Help

Quote:
Originally Posted by dick sargent View Post
Don T. you should be an instruction manual writer....Great job explanation.
OK, you are joking, right?
In the chandlery near me they have a real QME hanging on the wall as a nautical decoration! They won't sell it to me!
__________________
DL
Pythagoras
1962 Columbia 29 MKI #37
Don C L is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 10-09-2016, 10:53   #12
Registered User

Join Date: May 2008
Location: SW Florida
Boat: Bristol (Alden) 35 Sloop "Zephyr"
Posts: 498
Images: 2
Re: Mystery Self Steer Wind Vane Help

The frame of the vane that the cover goes on is 5' tall, and 16" wide. The 2 covers that came with it are 2 1/2' and 3' tall.
The covers have a vertical zipper, and common sense fasteners (twist fasteners) at top and bottom.

It has 4 split aluminum mounting blocks for, I guess, mounting to a push pit.
The welds are beautiful. Both the aluminum and the stainless.
__________________
over40pirate is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-09-2016, 19:21   #13
Moderator
 
Don C L's Avatar

Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Channel Islands, CA
Boat: 1962 Columbia 29 MK 1 #37
Posts: 3,598
Images: 27
Re: Mystery Self Steer Wind Vane Help

Quote:
Originally Posted by dick sargent View Post
Don T. you should be an instruction manual writer....Great job explanation.
Sorry if I came across as a wiseacre, I didn't think the explanation was as clear/detailed as it should have been.
__________________
DL
Pythagoras
1962 Columbia 29 MKI #37
Don C L is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 12-09-2016, 13:21   #14
Moderator
 
Don C L's Avatar

Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Channel Islands, CA
Boat: 1962 Columbia 29 MK 1 #37
Posts: 3,598
Images: 27
Re: Mystery Self Steer Wind Vane Help

Quote:
Originally Posted by over40pirate View Post
The frame of the vane that the cover goes on is 5' tall, and 16" wide. The 2 covers that came with it are 2 1/2' and 3' tall.
The covers have a vertical zipper, and common sense fasteners (twist fasteners) at top and bottom.

It has 4 split aluminum mounting blocks for, I guess, mounting to a push pit.
The welds are beautiful. Both the aluminum and the stainless.
Could you take a couple more photos of it? If it's not for sale I'd like to refresh my memory on all the parts if I venture into building one. 5 feet is really tall, that is a lot of leverage.. perhaps meant for something like a Westsail 32. The QME has a wooden blade, but somewhere in my memory banks I recall hearing of models like yours where the different sizes of fabric were for different wind speeds, reefing as it were,.. could be wrong... there must be some other old farts like me out there who remember... BTW anyone remember the kind Robin Graham had on "Dove?" What was that one called or was it just a homemade design? (just a quick thread drift)
http://www.natgeocreative.com/comp/01/275/617428.jpg
__________________
DL
Pythagoras
1962 Columbia 29 MKI #37
Don C L is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 12-09-2016, 16:41   #15
Registered User

Join Date: May 2008
Location: SW Florida
Boat: Bristol (Alden) 35 Sloop "Zephyr"
Posts: 498
Images: 2
Re: Mystery Self Steer Wind Vane Help

Here is a few more pics.
The big pulley is attached to the vane, and the lines go straight down, to a pulley, then to the tiller, via a pulley on either side of cockpit.
I think there needs to be 2 more pulleys, below the small one on the vane, to guide the lines forward and outward. In the first picture showing the small pulley, the forward line coming off the pulley, would rub on the small metal disc, with the 6 bolts in it.
The line with the cam cleat turns the vane into the wind.
I'm sure the different sized "sails" are for wind conditions, and amount of force required.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	P1070649.jpg
Views:	51
Size:	437.7 KB
ID:	131066   Click image for larger version

Name:	P1070650.jpg
Views:	51
Size:	435.7 KB
ID:	131067  

__________________

__________________
over40pirate is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
wind, wind vane

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
For Sale: Monitor Windvane self-steer Vaquita Classifieds Archive 3 24-02-2016 07:14
Wind Vane vsAutopilot vs Wind Vane with Autpilot Input pwillems Construction, Maintenance & Refit 8 12-11-2015 09:28
Aries Lift Up Wind Vane Broken Toothed Vane Carriage Coachbolt61 Construction, Maintenance & Refit 0 06-11-2012 00:32
Pendulum Wind Vane vs Auxiliary Rudder Vane SimonV Seamanship & Boat Handling 8 03-02-2011 17:14
wind vane self steering Pa La O La Multihull Sailboats 5 23-12-2004 06:10


Our Communities

Our communities encompass many different hobbies and interests, but each one is built on friendly, intelligent membership.

» More about our Communities

Automotive Communities

Our Automotive communities encompass many different makes and models. From U.S. domestics to European Saloons.

» More about our Automotive Communities

Marine Communities

Our Marine websites focus on Cruising and Sailing Vessels, including forums and the largest cruising Wiki project on the web today.

» More about our Marine Communities


Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 17:44.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.