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Old 30-10-2017, 17:48   #1
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Most beautiful yet practical world cruiser for a couple?

This means short hand/solo sailing capable (50' or less), smart layout and a real head turner. For me, it's the Oyster 475. Do you have a better choice?

Looks: Dead sexy. I can't imagine anything more beautiful unless a really traditional look is your thing. Yes, looks matter in a dream boat.

Practicality: I love center cockpit for weather protection capability and plenty of room at the stern for sunbathing or fishing. I also love that you get three (well... 2.5) truly private berths as opposed to even the larger Amels.

Comfort: Great galley layout and so much light down below. I love the hull windows on the sides too.

Performance: Not the fastest, but still a capable and safe performer and cruisers aren't generally on an aggressive sail plan anyway. Also, I love the engine is dead center for easy access and great weight placement.

Curious what other boats people think beats this combo of sexiness and capability. I think the Amel 50 is technically a better boat, but she doesn't turn my head as much.
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Old 31-10-2017, 04:45   #2
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Re: Most beautiful yet practical world cruiser for a couple?

Well, esthetics are by their nature, very personal, so it is impossible to be right or wrong when it is a evaluating, gaging someone else’s personal choice. My perfect boat would be Moitessier’s Joshua – just raw boat, no chrome, ersatz teak or tail-fins. Second might be Hanna’s Tahiti. I prefer the lines of our older B24 than our recent Oday30 and try as I might the Euro-esque styling that has become popular in recent decades kind of reminds me of Bayliner’s abortive attempt at sail boats… But, I recognize I’m in a distinct, and dying (both figuratively and actually) minority. Nonetheless, it is for sure that Oysters enjoy a sterling reputation, so what do I know…
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Old 31-10-2017, 09:11   #3
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Re: Most beautiful yet practical world cruiser for a couple?

lord nelson. perfect cruiser for a couple. there is one in catskill point ny at the marina there. man had accident in car and no longer able to sail, has it for sale asking 125k usd.
he is available by messenger. i didnt see many pix of the boat in his albums...
he sent me pix of it--is gorgeous.
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Old 31-10-2017, 09:50   #4
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Re: Most beautiful yet practical world cruiser for a couple?

To me the smaller Oysters (also Discovery and Gunfleet) look top heavy and a bit like they have come out of a Jelly Mold. They get a bit sleeker when you get to the 70+ feet models! Do not like those wrap around windows!

When we were looking for a 40-50 we looked at Rustler 44 and Morris 48GT. Both are beautiful and I think more of a head turner than the Oysters. But that is just my opinion. Also a bit of a rare sighting. Outbound 46 with the new factory designed hard dodger is also a really good looking boat.

Now, we think our Hylas 54 original low coachroof version is the ultimate beautiful sailing yacht.
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Old 31-10-2017, 09:55   #5
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The new Amel 50 for me... Gorgeous, safe, solid and practical.
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Old 31-10-2017, 10:45   #6
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Amel is a far more practical boat. My mate has a 575 MK II and has 28 (yes) seacocks. He has a checklist from Oyster.

I have 2 seacocks to 2 separate interconnectible manifolds. Can't get simpler and safer. AMELS become far more beautiful once you've been at sea for a few storms!!!
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Amel is a far more practical boat. My mate has a 575 MK II and has 28 (yes) seacocks. He has a checklist from Oyster.

I have 2 seacocks to 2 separate interconnectible manifolds. Can't get simpler and safer. AMELS become far more beautiful once you've been at sea for a few storms!!! [emoji3][emoji3]
That's what I appreciate about Amels. I honestly saw them as ugly boats BUT over the years they became attractive to me, all those functional well thought out features that had evolved over the years shaped or altered my perception of them.
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Re: Most beautiful yet practical world cruiser for a couple?

For me it's the traditional look and feel of a Tayana 37! Of course I may be a bit biased!!
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For me it's the traditional look and feel of a Tayana 37! Of course I may be a bit biased!!
Or even better, a Rafiki-37
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The SMALLEST boat you feel comfortable in!
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This means short hand/solo sailing capable (50' or less), smart layout and a real head turner. For me, it's the Oyster 475. Do you have a better choice?

Looks: Dead sexy. I can't imagine anything more beautiful unless a really traditional look is your thing. Yes, looks matter in a dream boat.

Practicality: I love center cockpit for weather protection capability and plenty of room at the stern for sunbathing or fishing. I also love that you get three (well... 2.5) truly private berths as opposed to even the larger Amels.

Comfort: Great galley layout and so much light down below. I love the hull windows on the sides too.

Performance: Not the fastest, but still a capable and safe performer and cruisers aren't generally on an aggressive sail plan anyway. Also, I love the engine is dead center for easy access and great weight placement.

Curious what other boats people think beats this combo of sexiness and capability. I think the Amel 50 is technically a better boat, but she doesn't turn my head as much.
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Re: Most beautiful yet practical world cruiser for a couple?

For me it's the Bristol Channel Cutter. However, I came across this video last weekend & I'm in love:

1984 C.E. Ryder Sea Sprite 30 Sail Boat For Sale - www.yachtworld.com
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For me, the Amel is definitely the most practical boat out there, but the smaller ones just don't light my fire.

The Tayana is a beauty, oh such a beauty, but I wouldn't want to be an old lady navigating a boat with so much load.

I only allowed myself to be tempted briefly but found that he Rifiki is a wonder-gal too.

And please don't get me started on the Hans Christians and the Babas and the Valiants and the Passports and all the other canoe stern beauties: I have a hard enough time getting myself to stop with the boat porn as it is.

I was on Kim's Britican, and Oyster 56 (I think) and liked it because of the forward (2) and aft cabins, but the layout of the main cabin didn't speak to me. That said, there is plenty of privacy to be had for cruising families or couples. What I didn't like about it at all was the fact that all their winches are electric; the fact that Kim and her man need five people to help them change out their sails; the fact that they need a huge generator. They love it and that's great, but keeping things simple and being able to handle as much as I can on my own is my personal choice.

That said, the larger (too large for me) Nordships are really fine looking boats...

Sticking with who I am, I've decided that it best that i get a small boat (33' or less), one I can handle by myself and afford, up until my last day (fingers crossed). If it is a bigger boat, it would have be a ketch like Zee on her Formosa (pirate-style! geez, Zee's got class), and i do aspire to being an old lady navigating my boat.

Now, I know that the boat I've got my heart set on (for me and perhaps one day in a couple, depending if i happen upon a fantastic mate or not, i'm mega picky) doesn't sail so well upwind. This is a bummer for me, because i like it when the boat heels! I did some racing in SF bay (had the privilege of racing with Gordie Nash of all people!) and really enjoyed the action of it all, the quickness of it all (bruises and all), yet, as a full-time gal on the water, it is best that I stick with a smooth-dry-solid-motion-ride sailboat. Being exhausted is not the goal. Being safe is.

Flush decks can be a plus for keeping my toes from turning purple when my brain tells me to get my rear forward quickly.

I like a large cockpit I can sleep in and still do not know if the boat I love has the leg length there i'd like.... (actually need to check). I've got to have a binimi because i burn (it's not a given on some boats).

I like a below with a knock-out layout, with fantastic ventilation, ports and hatches, loads of teak and a sweet galley to cook in (so to be inspired to cook, not my forté).

I like an aft cabin and a forward cabin. The aft is for me, the forward is for stuff and/or guests; and i do have two kids, who will hopefully come every so often to hang with their eccentric mother.

I like a head at the bottom of the companionway stair with a shower space in the walkway to the aft cabin (brilliant!).

I like to access to the engine from all sides.

I like headroom.

I like simple systems, right down to the manual windlass (well, we'll see how I'm doing in ten to twenty years...).

Enough suspense...

I like Peter Cole's Nantucket Island 33, and among these, those made for the American market in the 1980's.

Does anyone here know them? if you do, please tell me what you know.
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Isn't that the newer version of the Amel 53 that the S/V Delos sails the world in ? If it is , then it's a very capable blue water boat which can be single handed easily. Please correct me if I'm wrong. I usually am.
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For me it's the Bristol Channel Cutter. However, I came across this video last weekend & I'm in love:

1984 C.E. Ryder Sea Sprite 30 Sail Boat For Sale - www.yachtworld.com
1984? THAT BOAT HAS BEEN LOVED!
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For me it's the Bristol Channel Cutter. However, I came across this video last weekend & I'm in love:

1984 C.E. Ryder Sea Sprite 30 Sail Boat For Sale - www.yachtworld.com
Wow, what a beauty, right down to the varnished wood blocks. And somehow I managed to overlook what I often consider unsightly (albeit functional) poles on the stern. If only someone had not drilled a hole through the hull near the bow, and installed that funny looking propeller thingy. Heck, that boat looks almost as good as a Bristol 47!
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