461s, all sloop
, deep draft
, of which there were 47 built, were for Moorings. Unique features vs 462 which didn't have these options were a closed tube/structure vs open shaft and a boom crutch. Despite their being designed for charter
use, we have yet to see a 45'OD boat with more storage
. Yet, in full rig and close friends, you could sleep 11 pretty comfortably.
Despite their being an expensive option, most took the ketch
rig on 462s. Only a few opted for the deep (6-0 vs 5-3) version, and most made the forward tank fuel
with the saddles the water
. In the 461s it was forward and starboard, and perhaps (haven't nailed this part down) a spare tank in the settee forward of the sink, making for 330G of water designed (actual volumes usually worked out a little less).
They are bulletproof. Click my gallery link to see what I mean from my wreck pix - 3 days in 8-10' surf on a normally MLW dry limestone plateau resulted in only some delamination
. Pix show her restoration
As to blisters
in the other threads of late, disregard the Pascoe junk. I know that particular boat - it's Cyrano in my "other" gallery - and it's amazing. The owners have recently sold her to do the trawler
thing in order to run up the Mississippi
in the summer for the grandkids, and continue to cruise
during the winter - it sold at top dollar in less than a month.
See my current refit
pix for your worst nightmares re blisters
- it's only a lot of work, not a structural issue. Mine is hull
#2; I'm convinced the crew was on crack that day - but I also believe we've killed the water-soluble-materials dragon which creates blisters. More info on how we managed that if you like.
I would not trade
this design for any I've seen. I went aboard more than 200 boats looking for our particular criteria - stand in any normal standing place, lie down extended where I'll sleep, have a rectangular queen space at minimum for sleeping (no Pullmans or Vees), blue-water capable (many circumnavigators in this marque), and good storage
- before settling on this design.
or ketch rig is your preference - the boat sails
magnificently either way, and the hull
is particularly sea-kindly. Don't stand on the throttle, and you can do figure-8s in reverse. I backed a quarter mile in a narrow channel because there wasn't room to turn around, once. Many have been rigged with a staysail - we had one when we bought her, and have since significantly upgraded the sail and the hardware
, including running backs, in our current refit
. The mast
is far enough aft to fit the usual "cutter" profile, but you'll have to be sure you do the proper reinforcing for your base, if you do that.
I'm happy to respond to any questions about M46x; you'll find my gallery very useful if you're considering one, or want to know how to do something. There's not too many places either my hands or my camera
haven't been aboard!
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