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Old 04-02-2006, 13:18   #16
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In this context, purchase price might better be states as "fair value".
Maintenance costs are those required to 'maintain' the same (constant) value - neither improving nor depreciating the true value of the boat.
The "market" value of the boat may fluctuate, due to outside conditions (supply/demand, fashion, interest rates, economic conditions), but the boats "position" in the market place should remain relatively constant.
The more you spend on a boat, new or used, the more it will cost to maintain that fair value.
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Old 04-02-2006, 16:06   #17
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Gord, what is fair value?

Here is how I see it: The new Tartan 41 cost $450k, the 10 year old Tartan cost $240k, the 20 year old Tartan cost $100k.

A new main for any of these three costs $4k, new standing rigging costs $8k, a new engine costs $8k, Awlgrip costs $150/ft, and on and on.

So if you have a boat with all systems in good working order the maintanence cost is the same $/yr regardless of what you paid for boat.
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Old 01-04-2007, 11:14   #18
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did you find a boat?

if you ever come south to santa barbara, come by and see our 41 islander freeport. there are many considerations in purchasing a boat, the best way to answer them is to try the boat for yourself. give me a call if you come down. jim cody 805-643-2639
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Old 01-04-2007, 14:05   #19
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Many cruisers will happily share their maintenance costs with you, but they can be unintentionally misleading. No one sets out on the kind of cruise you contemplate without a significant inventory of spare parts , repair materials, and tools. So, active cruisers tend to think that the new fuel filter, alternator belt, prop, etc. cost them nothing because they had a spare.

Don't know anything about the west coast/Pacific, but when you get to the Caribbean/Bahamas, you will not be painting your boat every 2 or 3 years. The boats you are talking about are big, heavy, full keel (I think), and slow. In Caribbean waters they will quickly become much slower because of the stuff that will grow on them. Plan to do hauling and antifouling evry year.

The only CSY 44 I was ever on had a 6 1/2 foot draft. This was in the Bahamas and I was on it to help after it ran aground. Don't know if there's a shoal draft version. But shoal draft is definitely more desireable in the Caribbean in general, and the Bahamas in particular. If you were only going to be cruising in this area, I would vote for the Morgan.
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Old 01-04-2007, 22:30   #20
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BOAT...( break out another thousand ). I have a 41 footer and the cost of ownership is many thousands a year. Insurance alone is $2600. I save some by doing the maintanance myself, but my time is money.
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Re: Morgan 41' or Islander Freeport 41'?

Danged if this discussion didn't go sideways.
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Re: Morgan 41' or Islander Freeport 41'?

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Danged if this discussion didn't go sideways.
Yea... It kinda did... But in a necessary way I think... The OP is under the impression that 41OI, or even worse, a 41 Freeport is similar in boat skill requirements as the 38 he was taken out on... Cost of ownership... Not to mention the intended trip...
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Re: Morgan 41', Islander Freeport 41' or CSY 44'?

9 year old thread, is this a record?
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Re: Morgan 41' or Islander Freeport 41'?

LEARN TO SAIL
then sail everything
the boats you mentioned have done this millions of times. but ye need to know what you like in sailing
we cannot make a decision you will enjoy, as all sail differently and all enjoy different kinds of boats.
sail sail sail
\then make up your mind. is a personal decision, kinda like picking a spouse. only you know what you like.
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Old 11-05-2016, 17:04   #25
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Re: Morgan 41', Islander Freeport 41' or CSY 44'?

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9 year old thread, is this a record?
I sure hope so, I need to break at least one this year.

I really was interested in the tread as we've been looking for a Morgan 41 OI Ketch. Then I saw the Freeport was similar and started trying to research it when I ran across this....
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Re: Morgan 41' or Islander Freeport 41'?

Some opinions.

The 41 OI Ketch is:
1. A great cruising, live aboard boat.
2. A great offshore boat. ( wouldn't want to be in any other boat offshore )
3. A pretty good investment for a sailboat.
4. A good coastal boat.
5. A good couples boat. ( 2 bathrooms and 3 sleeping areas, lotsa storage )
6. A great work while cruising boat.

The 41 OI Ketch is not:
1. A beginner boat.
2. A boat you want to buy if you are not handy, and in pretty good shape
( a course in engine room gymnastics should be a pre-purchase requirement )
3. A simple boat.
4. A fast boat for it's length. ( mine does 9 knots and that's good enough for me )
5. A boat that sails up wind.
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