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Old 02-01-2013, 22:53   #1
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Morgan 27 blue water worthy?

Has anyone experience with the Morgan 27? Is is blue water worthy or more of a coastal cruiser?
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Re: Morgan 27 blue water worthy?

Greetings and welcome aboard the CF, Sqelix.

Most boats (including this one), in that size range, would have been intended for coastal racing/cruising.
Ie: 15 Gal water, 14 gal fuel won’t take you very far.
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Hi there Sqelix...
Welcome to CF...
As for your Morgan 27... as Gord says in her origonal form no...
But with carefully positioning you could fit in bladders for extra water... storage would be another consideration so your wardrobe is smaller and food must be carefully planned... dried foods are not the best idea apart from rice and things like pasta that can be boiled in sea water.. tho' these days thats dodgy in some areas..
As long as shes dry, sound rig and sails with running engine...
Yes it can be made 'blue water capable'... for me...
but then I'm a bit wierd...

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Re: Morgan 27 blue water worthy?

Interesting. Sounds as though it is possible then, but maybe more of a marina/harbor hopping along coasts? What about a Yankee 30? '
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Re: Morgan 27 blue water worthy?

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Interesting. Sounds as though it is possible then, but maybe more of a marina/harbor hopping along coasts? What about a Yankee 30? '
The final answer really comes down to how you personally want to define "Blue Water Worthy."

The issues in determining a boat's adequacy for an application would address at a minimum:

1. Is the boat structurally adequate for the intended use?

2. Blue water where? Bahamas, Caribbean? Across the Atlantic? Around Cape Horn?

3. Your personal abilities and preferences eg, do you want/need a long range under power? If yes you need bigger fuel tanks.

So to get a precise answer maybe more information would help, like:

What is your planned cruising area?

How long would you plan to be out?

How many on board?

Your level of expertise?
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Re: Morgan 27 blue water worthy?

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What about a Yankee 30? '
Tankage is a great indicator of the purpose for which a boat is designed. Specifications on these boats are easy to look up. Gord May pointed out that the Morgan 27 only holds 15 gallons of water. The Yankee 30 only holds 22. That's plenty of water for a long weekend.
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Re: Morgan 27 blue water worthy?

A little more than 22 gallons got two of us from San Diego to the Marquesas and way less than 20 gallons got me solo from SF to Hilo. Disable the pressure water and use footpumps, add a saltwater pump, will greatly decrease the temptation to waste water. Use freshwater for rinsing after saltwater bathing, etc.

I wouldn't want to cruise in a Morgan 27. They are basically a racing boat and cramped. The Yankee 30 was more of a cruiser/racer with better accomodations and space. Should be easy to add water capacity with a bladder tank or additional tankage. Also, easy to double the capacity with Gerry Jugs.. Would also expect the Yankee 30 to be a slightly faster boat though the Morgan was quite competitive in its day.
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Re: Morgan 27 blue water worthy?

FWIW,

Quite a few years ago I owned a Yankee 30 Mk III. It was my first real keel boat, and a better choice would have been hard to make IMO. The usual S&S sailing qualities were there... good balance, good all around performance, no vices.

After a few years of racing in and around SF Bay and several trips to the SoCal islands, Ann and I did our first blue water passage in her: a 7 week round trip SF to Oahu. The boat behaved very well, weathered tropical storm Gil with no worries, 16 days outbound and 20 returning. Only issue was that she liked to sail at big heel angles under nearly all conditions. This wasn't an issue on coastal passages where one does the occasional overnighter but mostly anchors at night, but for long ocean passages we found it to be very fatiguing.

Only mods were to add an additional fuel tank (she had an Atomic-4 petrol engine) and a few jugs of extra drinking water. Had a salt water pump for dishes, etc.

We have encountered a few Y-30's over the years here in the S Pacific, and none had reported any unusual issues when we chatted with them.

Oh... a 7 week round trip to Hawaii now sounds like torture to us, but it was all the time we had then due to work commitments!

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Re: Morgan 27 blue water worthy?

Be certain the the keel attachment is solid. The boat is an excellent PHRF racer but the keels can become loose.
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Oh... a 7 week round trip to Hawaii now sounds like torture to us, but it was all the time we had then due to work commitments!

Cheers,

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It is interesting how one's view changes when the restrictions of time are removed. Also, as I'm now finding, age might have a bit to do with it.
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Only mods were to add an additional fuel tank (she had an Atomic-4 petrol engine)
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