Moody 39 cc

[kevin123]

Hi everyone, i am 59 years old and I am a newly qualified day skipper and have been saving hard to buy my first boat. I have seen a 1976 moody 39 cc for sale for 20k she needs some tlc but seems like a lot of boat for the money and Has enough space for a comfortable liveaboard I plan to sail as many weekends as I can to gain more experience and get the boat exactly as I want her with whatever upgrades she needs and then, when I feel ready take her down to the med and who knows where from then. It would just be me and my dog Kevin. I would welcome any thoughts that you may have.
Is a moody 39 a real blue water boat.
Could she be sailed single handed
Have they got any major problems
Things to look out for etc
Thankyou in advance Dave

[boatman61]

Originally Posted by kevin123

Hi everyone, i am 59 years old and I am a newly qualified day skipper and have been saving hard to buy my first boat. I have seen a 1976 moody 39 cc for sale for 20k she needs some tlc but seems like a lot of boat for the money and Has enough space for a comfortable liveaboard I plan to sail as many weekends as I can to gain more experience and get the boat exactly as I want her with whatever upgrades she needs and then, when I feel ready take her down to the med and who knows where from then. It would just be me and my dog Kevin. I would welcome any thoughts that you may have.
Is a moody 39 a real blue water boat.
Could she be sailed single handed
Have they got any major problems
Things to look out for etc
Thankyou in advance Dave

Yes she can take you anywhere you want to go.. can be singlehanded fairly easily once you get familiar with her ways and your routine down pat.. including docking and anchoring.
For one and a dog she's palatial..
Engine is likely a Thorneycroft so a good one if maintained regularly.. a look in the engine compartment and its condition will tell a lot.. dirty, smelly with torn patched lagging, taped hose's.. Bad.
Otherwise its the usual rigging, hatch/window seals, etc that goes with any boat..
They're strong well built cruisers.

[kevin123]

Originally Posted by boatman61

Yes she can take you anywhere you want to go.. can be singlehanded fairly easily once you get familiar with her ways and your routine down pat.. including docking and anchoring.
For one and a dog she's palatial..
Engine is likely a Thorneycroft so a good one if maintained regularly.. a look in the engine compartment and its condition will tell a lot.. dirty, smelly with torn patched lagging, taped hose's.. Bad.
Otherwise its the usual rigging, hatch/window seals, etc that goes with any boat..
They're strong well built cruisers.

She had a new engine and gearbox 2007 42 HP Thornycroft Mitsubishi

[Pete7]

Kevin, funny enough I saw that advert last weekend and thought that she is a lot of boat for the money and just down the road from us.

She has had some of the big jobs done, engine, wiring and standing rigging recently, so that possibly leaves the sails to budget for depending on their condition.

The good news is the deck looks dreadful and must be putting people off, but a weekends work with International deck paint and a really good preparation would transform the look.

She has big tanks for water and diesel so I think she would be a good liveaboard.

If you need a local surveyor then Duncan Saunders who has surveyed two yachts for me is just down the road.

Hamble Yacht Surveyors Hamble Southampton Port Solent Lymington Poole Gosport Chichester : Saunders Morgan Harris Yacht Surveyors

[kevin123]

Hi Pete 7
I have just come back from looking at her. Don’t really know where to start but it looks like everything internally needs to come out and be replaced, head linings need replacing 240volt and 12 volt wiring needs to be done new upholstery, and probably a new engine. I have a survey from 2017 and it makes interesting reading but it seems that she is structurally sound the broker thinks that she will go for a lot less than 20k maybe as little as 12k not sure whether to have a go at it, I could do some of the work myself but it will still cost a lot of money. Are there any members that could give me an idea what all this work would cost ?

[skipmac]

Originally Posted by kevin123

Hi Pete 7
I have just come back from looking at her. Don’t really know where to start but it looks like everything internally needs to come out and be replaced, head linings need replacing 240volt and 12 volt wiring needs to be done new upholstery, and probably a new engine. I have a survey from 2017 and it makes interesting reading but it seems that she is structurally sound the broker thinks that she will go for a lot less than 20k maybe as little as 12k not sure whether to have a go at it, I could do some of the work myself but it will still cost a lot of money. Are there any members that could give me an idea what all this work would cost ?

Start with the big one. All assuming you pay a boat yard to do all the work. DIY will be a fraction of the money but four times longer.

New engine, if you pay a yard to do the whole bit, depending on the engine could easily reach £10-15,000.

Wiring. Hard to say. How much is built in and inaccessible and how elaborate you want to go with the new. Figure min £2-3000.

Headliner - £1-2,000.

Upholstery - depends on the fabric and whether you replace the foam or not. £1-4,000

I would assume the standing rigging needs to be replaced. £4-5,000.

Sails if needed. Main, Genoa, Drifter or reacher £2-3,000 each. It could do £5-6,000.

Also, rule of thumb and this is based on doing full refits like this on two boats. It will cost double what you estimate and take twice as long to do it. Sounds like a joke but in real life it does apply.

[skipmac]

Don't forget battery chargers, pumps, plumbing, through hulls, seacocks, etc, etc, etc.

[Pete7]

Originally Posted by kevin123

Hi Pete 7
I have just come back from looking at her. Don’t really know where to start but it looks like everything internally needs to come out and be replaced, head linings need replacing 240volt and 12 volt wiring needs to be done new upholstery, and probably a new engine. I have a survey from 2017 and it makes interesting reading but it seems that she is structurally sound the broker thinks that she will go for a lot less than 20k maybe as little as 12k not sure whether to have a go at it, I could do some of the work myself but it will still cost a lot of money. Are there any members that could give me an idea what all this work would cost ?

Sheesh, the advert suggested a lot of this has been done.

So the engine was replaced in 2007 and looks newish, what do you think is wrong with it other than its Chinese? If you need to replace:

http://www.marineenterprisesltd.co.uk/

Same with the wiring, just how bad is it? You cold ask Alan who is local and owns a Moody about the engine and wiring.

Ganter Marine Services

The new upholstery bit, is the foam okay or damaged? You are looking at £2500 for complete new cushions throughout, but it would transform the look down below and be good for the next 30 years.

Ring Comfort Afloat | Specialists in Quality Upholstery and External Covers and ask them for a ball park figure saying you are thinking of buying etc.

Head lining problems are rare on a Moody but common on a Westerly. Is this something you think you could do? BTW was there any self steering fitted.

So, put together a spreadsheet of the major ticket items and add a £2500 for self steering and something for the sails. Along with lots of cleaning and sorting it could be an opportunity to get the boat you want especially if the price is down to £12k.

[robert sailor]

We have a Moody, granted a newer one than the one you are looking at...they are well built boats but it sounds like the one you are looking at is a project. You will have to decide if a project is what you want and unless your capable at doing a lot of the work yourself, personally I'd give it a pass. If you have to write checks to have basic boat work done you will be miles ahead paying more and getting a boat in better condition.

[Pete7]

How tight is the budget?

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[gkovachi]

I have a Hallberg Rassy 41 center cockpit offshore equipped ready to go being hauled 1/31/2018 for bottom paint. Check out boats.com. It's listed private seller asking $60K. Buyer survey welcomed. She's a steal.

[kevin123]

Originally Posted by gkovachi

I have a Hallberg Rassy 41 center cockpit offshore equipped ready to go being hauled 1/31/2018 for bottom paint. Check out boats.com. It's listed private seller asking $60K. Buyer survey welcomed. She's a steal.

Thanks for all your help and advice but I don’t think this ones for me.

[kevin123]

Do any of you know anything about an Achilles 9m ? There is a seemingly good one for sale near me for a little under 10k. Thanks

[boatman61]

Is it this one.. nice example.. she'll go fast so don't dawdle..

https://www.apolloduck.com/boat.phtml?id=534997

Sail well and were popular club racers/cruisers.. the downside is the 8hp Yanmar.. it'll get you in and out of the marina though.. and she'll sail across to France with ease.. and further.

[kevin123]

Originally Posted by boatman61

Is it this one.. nice example.. she'll go fast so don't dawdle..

https://www.apolloduck.com/boat.phtml?id=534997

Sail well and were popular club racers/cruisers.. the downside is the 8hp Yanmar.. it'll get you in and out of the marina though.. and she'll sail across to France with ease.. and further.

Thanks boatman61 but I agree that I would want a more powerful engine ! This one is in Plymouth it has got a nice stainless arch for solar panels and a wind turbine would still need to find room for a fridge, hot water and maybe a water maker if I am going to be cruising long distances but I think it would be worth the investment. Any ideas on what else might be needed ?