Originally Posted by Lambretta
I am brand new to this forum and would appreciate some guidance as I am looking to invest in a either a (approx) 40ft mono or Cat to cruise
the Med over the next ten years plus. I live in Cape Town
and am looking to buy a yacht (probably in SA but open to looking in the Med ) and keep it in the Med and it will be wonderful to go and explore the Med for a couple of weeks in the Northern hemisphere summer (our Winter!!) and then when I retire in about 5 years I will then do it for much longer preriods!! My thinking is that I will then also invite friends of ours (my wife and I) to join us for a week or two over this time ...... I dont want 6 people on the yacht! Or my grown up kids
(2) ........ that is the background
What appeals to me about the monohulls that I have looked at so far is
1. Ease of sailing (for my wife and I) as some of our friends will lack sailing experience.
2. Ease of berthing space required. I beleive this can me an issue in a lots of ports
in the Med (some countries more than others)
3. I am experienced in sailing mono's
(I realise this is a huge variable but it appears that monos for age and condition offer way better value than cats.)
What appeals about Cats (and then potentially negatives of monos)
1. Stability at mooring
4. Ease of berthing due to two motors (yes a bow thruster will make a big difference to the mono)
5. Ease of launching and accessing an inflatible tender
with a small motor
above the water
line with better views and visabliity
7. Sailing and motoring speed
8. Two motors
9. Stability at sea
I am not looking for more than two cabins but three will also be fine and the main cabin
must have seperate head
etc. and offer nice space and comfort!! . I realise that some cats come with the "owners edition" layout etc.
This post probably has much more to be said ....... but I guess I will leave that to the members as I am sure I have missed a ton of stuff!!!
I am open to specific yacht recommendations too!!
Ps ......... Lambretta is my nickname from my Italian friends ....... long story!!
I think you've got the pros and cons about nailed
The only thing I would add to this is to caution you not to compare cats and monos length by length -- they are not comparable like this, because a cat has two hulls, and a mono has one. You might as well say a 40 foot cat is equal to an 80 foot mono, since the cat has 2 x 40 feet of hulls, but this is also not right, since the hulls in a cat are much narrower. The truth is in between -- a 40 foot cruising cat is probably comparable to a 48 foot or maybe 50 foot cruising mono. To compare like for like you need to compare comparable hull volumes
, probably the old Thames Measure Gross Registered Tonnage calculation would be ideal for this.
So once you are comparing like for like in terms of hull
volume, you will see that many of the differences disappear. Monos are not
a better value, for a comparable hull
volume. The cost is about the same for like quality, age, etc., for the same hull volume.
Sailing characteristics are somewhat different between monos and cats. A performance-oriented cruising cat, lightly loaded, can be extremely fast, faster than the comparable mono. So your 40 foot cat, if it can be described like this, might be faster than a 50 foot mono. Although I am a mono guy in general, I would absolutely own a hot performance cat, if I had a chance, and the money
. That would be something fascinating, which can't be done in any kind of mono. Something like a Gunboat, for example -- wow.
Conversely, a non-performance, cruising-oriented cat like a Lagoon
, especially if it is loaded down with cruising gear
, might be even much slower than the comparable-by-hull-volume mono.
One real advantage of monos is that they are not as much affected by load. That is because they have ballast.
So a given amount of load will be a smaller percentage of the total mass of mono of a given hull volume, compared to a cat of the same hull volume. In other words, a 48-foot or 50-foot mono can carry a whole lot more load -- probably several times more -- than a 40 foot cat can, without a noticeable affect on performance.
People say cats don't point as well, but that has not been my experience. Loaded cruising monos rarely point any better, in my experience. A hot performance cat with daggerboards points excellently.
People argue viciously about whether or not cats or monos are safer in a storm (the millionth thread on this petered out only recently). Statistics show no difference.
So, my advice is just buy what appeals to you on a gut level. There are fewer practical differences than you might have thought otherwise. For me it would boil down to, very simply:
No heel on a long passage
above the waterline; view (big plus)
Stability at anchor
Hard to berth in a marina, and very hard in some places
Ugly (from my totally subjective point of view)
Sensitive to load
Motion not to my taste (totally subjective)
Don't like the arrangement of interior
spaces as much (totally subjective)
Easier to berth in a marina
Motion more pleasant to my (totally subjective) taste
volumes work better for me (totally subjective)
Load carrying ability
Heel at sea (not a minus for me except on long passages, but then a big minus)
sole below the waterline (big minus for me, but mitigated with deck
salon designs, like on my boat)
No redundant mechanical propulsion
In my opinion, nearly all of the other stuff are no advantage or disadvantage of either type -- cost, performance, safety
, etc., etc., etc., will be all the same if you compare like for like according to hull volume.