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Old 09-11-2013, 09:03   #31
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Men will buy you beers, women will swoon, you will look more handsome with a cat is all.
But I also heard that size matters.
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Re: Mono or Multi Hull for Cruising the Med

Two are better 'n one...
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Two are better 'n one...
I surrender.

Wouldn't touch that line with a 10' whisker pole.

Don't want to get banned from the forum.
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Re: Mono or Multi Hull for Cruising the Med

So then, multi vs mono is now fixed for all time ?
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So then, multi vs mono is now fixed for all time ?
Well at least this particular aspect of the debate seems to be closed for now.
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Not at all. I completely agree that a clueless person is just as dangerous on a mono or a cat and maybe more so on a power boat where it's possible to screw up faster. Every boat type has strengths and weaknesses, advantages and disadvantages, good points and bad. I was looking at just one very small point that I thought addressed the OP's question comparing monos and cats.

To me it appears that you have extrapolated from one simple, isolated point I made to add meanings to my statement that was not said, intended or even thought.

I only pointed out one isolated, specific issue with a cat that could be a problem for someone with no experience in cats where that same issue might be easier for that same person to deal with on a mono.

That says nor implies nothing at all about the myriad other issues, potential problems and such that could cause a problem on any boat, mono or a cat to a clueless person. Nor does it say that the issue is not something that is all that difficult to learn or deal with by most sailors with a modicum of sense or experience.
Then to put in a similar "single" point, monos are dangerous when running down wind as they can abruptly round up if you aren't familiar with the issue.

Please don't take offense or extrapolate from this comment.
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Then to put in a similar "single" point, monos are dangerous when running down wind as they can abruptly round up if you aren't familiar with the issue.
In fact they can round up even if you are familiar with the issue.


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Please don't take offense.
No reason to take offense at a simple statement of fact.


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or extrapolate from this comment.
No I think there's enough extrapolating going on already.
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Also, to the OP, I think it would be a huge waste of $$ to buy a yacht to leave in the Med and just use a couple of weeks per year for the next few years as you describe. Much better to charter untill you are ready to spend at least 4 months aboard over the summers. Annual expenses on a boat that size would be around 10K euro/year for maintainance/storage/insurance etc, not to mention depreciation, so chartering you could easily save $$/find the area you like to cruise in the med best without long passages between/try different boats, mono's cats etc. In fact check out Franks add here asking for crew in the Med aboard his Cat this season, you can take a couple of weeks, explore the Med, see how you like sailing a cat and living aboard etc.
Well 10s of 1000s do just that , and if they didn't , there'd be no boating industry. I personally know 4 couples that do so.

Furthermore high season charter in the Med is very expensive and the boats lack alot of owner facilities. You wouldn't be long cranking up 10k on the couple of charters.

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I would charter first as I do each year for the past 10 years having a look at and experience of the med and Adriatic. Have to say that of the 20 or so charters, 14 have been in Croatia , when I retire gonna buy and keep my boat somewhere there and then sail to Greece when I fancy
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Well 10s of 1000s do just that , and if they didn't , there'd be no boating industry. I personally know 4 couples that do so.

Furthermore high season charter in the Med is very expensive and the boats lack alot of owner facilities. You wouldn't be long cranking up 10k on the couple of charters.

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All valid and for all these reasons and more I kept a boat in the Caribbean for a couple of years while living in the states and commuting down for an occasional cruise and discovered a major drawback to this plan.

Since I was not on the boat to stay on top of all the little (and some not so little) maintenance jobs, several times when I showed up for a holiday it became a boat repair marathon. It was exacerbated by the fact that a boat doesn't do as well sitting closed up than it does when you use it regularly. This was on an almost new boat so couldn't be blamed on age, wear and tear.
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Well 10s of 1000s do just that , and if they didn't , there'd be no boating industry. I personally know 4 couples that do so.

Furthermore high season charter in the Med is very expensive and the boats lack alot of owner facilities. You wouldn't be long cranking up 10k on the couple of charters.

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Dave, for once I have to disagree with you. You really can't justify the boat ownership in two or three weeks. If you take the cost of money aspect into it chartering would be less expensive and substantially easier. At 4 weeks, it's a toss up IMO.
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Interesting comment........... I have thought of these factors, what also appeals to me about ownership is being able to leave my kit in the boat (diving, fishing and surf gear) and not have to lug this back home or put into storage somewhere. I accept the higher cost of maintenance etc. But that will just be part of the deal. So I could leave at short notice and pack light ....... comments also noted (and well made on having to do maintenance when you arrive)
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Right here. Though it certainly isnt a SW ;-) damn frogs me thinks.



Though to be very fair, broken sticks are rare on all modern cruising boats. Racers and Fixer-uppers- thats a whole other story.
That wind gust must have come from nowhere, no warning at all, just sudden like!! Just mild conditions amid the squalls.
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Interesting comment........... I have thought of these factors, what also appeals to me about ownership is being able to leave my kit in the boat (diving, fishing and surf gear) and not have to lug this back home or put into storage somewhere. I accept the higher cost of maintenance etc. But that will just be part of the deal. So I could leave at short notice and pack light ....... comments also noted (and well made on having to do maintenance when you arrive)
I hear you and that is one of the great benefits of owning your own boat. But, in the Med, there isn't surfing, the diving sucks, and your chances of landing one single fish in two weeks isn't great.

Last year we spent 4 months sailing, this year two months. If it was less than one month for more than one year, I'd start listing the boat. Deprecation, maintenance, insurance, cost of capital, and marina costs would make chartering a better deal, IMO.

BTW, Multi's are better for fishing You can easily lay out 4 lines.
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Great comment ........ again !!! ......... There is surf in the Med .... you just need to know where to look!! The diving (read snorkelling as my ears are to shot to equalise below 3 meters thanks to surfing in the cold Atlantic and therefore the "diving" is relative .......... ..... although having surfed in it for over thirty years you used to it!!

I did catch fish in the Med this year ....... but agreed .....not many!!

Sometimes things add up to more than just the numbers .... They have too, otherwise not many of us would own boats ...... and I have a weakness for them ..... I own 4!!

Where would you moor the boat as your first destination in the Med ?
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